[Madpup]

Thanks CT
i can take criticism, as you say this is the way we improve, what i could not take is when a old hand tells me to give up cos i never be any good.
while i might never be has good has he is, at least im trying, so i left that fourm about three years ago, and by luck i came across your fourm while surfing and thought sod it i'll give it another go, and going by the adutted of the members here im sure i was just unlucky with my first forum.
thanks again guys.