thanx to you both for the info, ive always been a little wary of shopping on ebay so thanx the the info on a trusted supplier, there are that many crooks on there and you read all the horror story's its nice to have someone singled out as being trustworthy!
i should try being a little patient i suppose aswell and not just buy the 1st lens i can afford and save for a quality one, i might put it into practise but patience isnt one of my strong points
thanx again