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Old 01-01-2006, 23:43   #1 (permalink)
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What would you pay for ....

..... a second hand EOS1DmkII one careful owner - hardly used by a Professional Photographer Friend.

It's approx 1 to 1.5 years old and in good condition. He's a Nikon Man and can't get used to the Canon.
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Old 01-01-2006, 23:47   #2 (permalink)
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says it all really lol
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Old 01-01-2006, 23:54   #3 (permalink)
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says it all really lol
Oy - I think he can't be bothered to set it up. I understand Canon send them out preset to soft images but they can be set up to sharp / crisp. Takes some doing I understand
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Old 01-01-2006, 23:57   #4 (permalink)
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only joking rho....I don't know nuffin about nuffin about canons...lol
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Old 01-01-2006, 23:58   #5 (permalink)
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People are trading up because of the n version which I just bought. The outgoing version could be had new recently for about £2200, but you'd be lucky to find one now.

If it's a weather proof body you're after then I'd snatch his hand off.You need weather proof lenses to take real advantage

45 point auto focus metering, super fast auto focus, spot and multi spot metering - 8 frames per second, it's an awesome action camera and the larger sensor makes more difference than you'd think to FOV.

If he's a mate you should be able to get a good deal. Has he mentioned a figure?
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Old 02-01-2006, 00:05   #6 (permalink)
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Garnock, Dazzajl and Busterboy are all members here who use that camera so they may see this and offer their thoughts on it.
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Old 02-01-2006, 00:12   #7 (permalink)
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People are trading up because of the n version which I just bought. The outgoing version could be had new recently for about £2200, but you'd be lucky to find one now.

If it's a weather proof body you're after then I'd snatch his hand off.You need weather proof lenses to take real advantage

45 point auto focus metering, super fast auto focus, spot and multi spot metering - 8 frames per second, it's an awesome action camera and the larger sensor makes more difference than you'd think to FOV.

If he's a mate you should be able to get a good deal. Has he mentioned a figure?
No not yet - But he's just purchased a Nikon D200, so he may want to pass the 1D on. Hopefully at a fair price
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Good luck then If it's really mint I'd have thought up to 1800 quid perhaps, as the n version is a grand more, and the differences are nice but not THAT significant. I'm sure the soft focus will be in the set up, but see what the owners here think. It's a brute of a pro camera though- built to take a hamering.
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How many actuations has it had? 1-1.5 years old doesn't tell the story of this camera, it could have shot 300 pics daily
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Oooh, I do like to hear of people getting a potential bargain.....gives hope to the rest of us
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Old 02-01-2006, 10:48   #11 (permalink)
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How many actuations has it had? 1-1.5 years old doesn't tell the story of this camera, it could have shot 300 pics daily
He just doesn't use it. He doesn't like it. He keeps talking about nails in coffins for Canon. But I will find out.

But if it is a high count but fully serviced what sort of resale value does it have ?
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I've posted similar thought based on discussions with the big players (but I'm biased so I think people tend to gloss over some of my more scathing comments ).
I was talking to Phil Goldsmith (Major Accounts Manager) at Calumet who told me that comapered to Nikon, Canon sales are negligable in the bigger market.
OK a lot of guys here use them but what's that? 150 - 200 camera bodies?


Just talking about camera bodies - full kits vary but will comprise of a mix of lenses of varying focal lengths.
I have 10 D2X bodies in my store for two full-time photographers and 4 part-timers - 2 for me and 2 spare, same for the other guy and 2 for the others as they need them.
At my old posting we have (now - it's changed since I've left) 20 D1x bodies; 100 D1H bodies and 200 D100 bodies to service the people coming through.
Up the road at Hereford they have 50 D1x bodies.
At Land Command they have 20 D1x bodies - now being swapped for D2x.
At the school at RAF Cosford they have 100 D1x bodies just to train on.

All the police agencies we trained use Nikon; Customs use Nikon; all the European armed forces I've met use Nikon; the US military use Nikon.
The only Canons I see are in the hands of freelance Pro's and how many of them are there?
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What happens to all the old kit then Rob....especially lenses ?
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He just doesn't use it. He doesn't like it. He keeps talking about nails in coffins for Canon. But I will find out.
I don't think Canon will be too worried. The 1D series are probably the most customizable cameras in the world, but anyone with a decent grasp of the basics should be able to set up the camera to how they want it.
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But if it is a high count but fully serviced what sort of resale value does it have ?
You need a special piece of software to access the actual number of shutter actuations which is recorded continuously in the camera. Canon say the 1 series cameras are good for 200,000 actuations before the shutter may need servicing or replacing, which is the equivalent of shooting a 36 exp roll of film every day for 16 years.

The original 1D at 4 mill pixels is still well sought after but has taken a bit of a price hit, whereas at 8.2 mill pixels, I think Mk2 versions will command a good price for a long time yet. I don't see myself ever having any need to part with mine, barring some camera technology revolution as radical as the original digital sensor.
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(but I'm biased so I think people tend to gloss over some of my more scathing comments ).
It's the 'biased' bit which lets these sort of arguments down Rob.

I can honestly say I'm not biased, I love both marques and I've owned a few Nikons. Quoting numbers of cameras held by a particular dept can sound impressive, but is probably very misleading - I think looking at the bigger picture, 1 series Canons are the preference of many many sports and reportage photographers world wide. Wouldn't you like your Nikon to take both SD and CF cards and be able to record images to both simultaneously, or Raw to one and jpegs to the other with the choice of several other permutations, or be able to switch from one card to the other at the press of a button? (two buttons actually). How many of the thousands of camera in use at the Olympic games will be Canons?.

It would be interesting if you were actually to use one Rob and post your honest thoughts, but as I've said many times, there really is nowt to choose between either marque. Each will always have some advantage or disadvantage over the other, but we'd all pay a lot more for our kit without these two giants continuously slugging it out fo