Pixalo Photography Community

Go Back   Pixalo Photography Community > Photography Forums > Cameras, Lenses and Accessories

Cameras, Lenses and Accessories: Discuss 20D Battery Grip Problems....No doubt most of you will be aware that there seems to be a problem with this grip causing the ...
Welcome to the Pixalo Photography Community. As a Guest you are free to browse the site, but see what extras you get as a Member here.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 13-04-2005, 11:42   #1 (permalink)
CT
Feet under the table
 
CT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: West Mids UK
Posts: 3,368
CT is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
20D Battery Grip Problems.

No doubt most of you will be aware that there seems to be a problem with this grip causing the 20D to not register the state of discharge of the battery on the top LCD panel. Apparantly Canon USA have acknowledged the problem, but Canon UK are denying the issue. I've been using the grip with two batteries inserted and seeing no sign of battery depletion on the LCD panel, I pulled out the batteries removed the grip and inserted each battery in the camera in turn. Sure enough, both batteries were showing partly depleted after a week of pretty well regular use. In fairness they were showing no sign of slowing down at all.

On the advice of another owner, I charged the batteries, but put them into the grip before inserting the grip in the camera, which is supposed to be a 'work around' for the problem. Two weeks later, I had arrived at the conclusion this didn't work as there was no sign at all of battery depletion. However after an extended period of use this morning, the LCD display did indeed show partial battery depletion, so it seems to work.

I have to say though that the battery life in this camera is so impressive, it's almost a none issue, as you'd undoubtedly charge the batteries before a day out, and if at home, the recharge time is very quick, and you can even do a partial quick charge. I've just spent over an hour trying to run the batteries dead and got fed up of trying, the camera is still capable of 6 shot bursts at full res. I've finally put one battery on charge and the other is still giving 6 shot bursts from the camera on it's own!
CT is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2005, 12:32   #2 (permalink)
Rep Point Winner 07
 
Gary Bagshawe's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sheffield UK
Posts: 2,746
Gary Bagshawe is a glorious beacon of lightGary Bagshawe is a glorious beacon of light
Gary Bagshawe is a glorious beacon of lightGary Bagshawe is a glorious beacon of lightGary Bagshawe is a glorious beacon of lightGary Bagshawe is a glorious beacon of lightGary Bagshawe is a glorious beacon of lightGary Bagshawe is a glorious beacon of lightGary Bagshawe is a glorious beacon of lightGary Bagshawe is a glorious beacon of lightGary Bagshawe is a glorious beacon of lightGary Bagshawe is a glorious beacon of lightGary Bagshawe is a glorious beacon of light

Image edit - ASK
User's Gallery
Users Camera Equipment List
I have a battery grip for my D60 and use it everyday. I seem to find that the battery life is very good and the depletion state only starts to show signs after really heavy usage.
Gary Bagshawe is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2005, 13:00   #3 (permalink)
Forum Regular
 
Steep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Inverness
Posts: 960
Steep is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
Agree with Gary, my 300d grip with two batteries seems to just go on for weeks before showing any signs of depletion. When it does show it's not too long before the batteries are too low to use though.
Steep is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2005, 19:57   #4 (permalink)
Feet under the table
 
IanC_UK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Northampton
Posts: 2,136
IanC_UK is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
Had heard about this, which is why i am holding off buying a grip for my 20D !

Although the problem doesnt sound quite as bad as i thought ! more an annoyance or incovenience than serious failure by sound of it !
IanC_UK is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2005, 20:14   #5 (permalink)
Forum Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: on the floor
Posts: 611
digitalfailure is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
I'm also holding off the purchase of the battery grip for my 20D after hearing these comments along with some more disturbing traits!

one such issue is that the camera can lock up if the grip is twisted a little, as the contacts make a poor conection. the only way to reset it seems to be to remove the grip and insert a single battery. hardly a satisfactory situation.

it would appear that the earlier build grips were made with a vital washer missing, which allowed excessive movement.


I really miss the feel of the extra grip now after having it on my 300D, it's a great add on for the camera in terms of stability and balance as well as the extended run time and portrait controls.
__________________
I came, I saw, I broke it!!!
digitalfailure is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2005, 20:48   #6 (permalink)
Feet under the table
 
IanC_UK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Northampton
Posts: 2,136
IanC_UK is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
It also bothers me a bit that Canon USA can acknowledge the fact and Canon UK deny it ? Do UK not speak to USA or are they just pretending it didnt happen ! lol
IanC_UK is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2005, 21:05   #7 (permalink)
CT
Feet under the table
 
CT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: West Mids UK
Posts: 3,368
CT is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by IanC_UK
It also bothers me a bit that Canon USA can acknowledge the fact and Canon UK deny it ? Do UK not speak to USA or are they just pretending it didnt happen ! lol
I can't remember where I read this now Ian. Some people are also complaining bitterly about the battery grip flexing when it's mounted on the camera. I can't say I have this problem (thankfully) the battery grip locks up nice and tight with no play at all, and the grip does make the camera a chunkier, nicer piece of kit to use. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another if I had to, but I would be concerned about what I was going to get having read some of the stories from buyers.
CT is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2005, 21:09   #8 (permalink)
Forum Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: on the floor
Posts: 611
digitalfailure is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
These concerns were all over fredmiranda and photog on the net forums.

CT, are there any coloured dots on yours inside the battery compartment, i seem to remember something about a dot being a visible id of being OK.

might be something only Canon USA have bothered with.

Deffo worth keeping it in mind if your considering an eBAY purchase from either US or HK.
digitalfailure is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2005, 21:17   #9 (permalink)
CT
Feet under the table
 
CT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: West Mids UK
Posts: 3,368
CT is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by digitalfailure
CT, are there any coloured dots on yours inside the battery compartment, i seem to remember something about a dot being a visible id of being OK.
I just checked - nope no dots.
CT is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2005, 21:41   #10 (permalink)
Feet under the table
 
IanC_UK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Northampton
Posts: 2,136
IanC_UK is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
Yes, i read about this on a couple of other places too, just never had confirmation from someone directly !

Problem is i want one ! lol
IanC_UK is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2005, 22:26   #11 (permalink)
Forum Regular
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: on the floor
Posts: 611
digitalfailure is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
So do I Ian
so I vote that you go to your local jessops and buy one, you can then provide a full in depth review of it for us :lol:

the 20D feels soooooo small now after having the gripped 300d
digitalfailure is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2005, 22:43   #12 (permalink)
Feet under the table
 
IanC_UK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Northampton
Posts: 2,136
IanC_UK is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by digitalfailure
So do I Ian
so I vote that you go to your local jessops and buy one, you can then provide a full in depth review of it for us :lol:

the 20D feels soooooo small now after having the gripped 300d
If you think the 20D is small, go and try a 350D !!!! I was going to buy one, but my little finger kept waggling around under the camera body, thing is soooooo small, wouldnt be able to use it without a battery grip ! specially with a decent size lens on it ! so i bought the 20d instead !
IanC_UK is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2005, 22:48   #13 (permalink)
New here
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cambs, UK
Posts: 38
AndyD is an unknown quantity at this point
User's Gallery
The other problem with this grip is the AA insert; apparently 6 brand new Duracell AA's will last you a couple of shots before expiring.... Not a very clever "alternative" power supply! Better off with a couple of BP511 clones. (I've had 2 from the channel islands for over a year and they are great, and certainly cheaper than 8 sets of AA's)

:wink:
AndyD is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2005, 22:51   #14 (permalink)
Feet under the table
 
IanC_UK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Northampton
Posts: 2,136
IanC_UK is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyD
The other problem with this grip is the AA insert; apparently 6 brand new Duracell AA's will last you a couple of shots before expiring.... Not a very clever "alternative" power supply! Better off with a couple of BP511 clones. (I've had 2 from the channel islands for over a year and they are great, and certainly cheaper than 8 sets of AA's)

:wink:

LOL all those AA's and a team of Himalayan Sherpas to carry them !
IanC_UK is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2005, 22:53   #15 (permalink)
New here
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cambs, UK
Posts: 38
AndyD is an unknown quantity at this point
User's Gallery
True!
AndyD is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 13-04-2005, 22:58   #16 (permalink)
Feet under the table
 
IanC_UK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Northampton
Posts: 2,136
IanC_UK is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
Have you had any issues with your 20D grip Andy ? other than requiring Sherpas to carry spare batteries ?
IanC_UK is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 14-04-2005, 00:12   #17 (permalink)
New here
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cambs, UK
Posts: 38
AndyD is an unknown quantity at this point
User's Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by IanC_UK
Have you had any issues with your 20D grip Andy ? other than requiring Sherpas to carry spare batteries ?
Ian, so far I have had no issues with the grip whatsoever. Apart from the fact that it is "ugly" compared to the BG Ed3 on my 10D. The BG ED3 seems to have a better "fit" all round, meaning that it feels as though it should always have been part of the camera. The 20D grip on the other hand, doesn't seem to be as snug as the BG ED3. Having said that, one improvement over the 10D grip is the switch for the vertical controls. The switch is recessed and cannot be easily turned off. It is more akin the the switch on the 1 series camera's. The switch on the BG ED3 can be caught quite easily.

The grip can be pulled away from the body just enough to power down the camera, but this has to be done consciously for it to have an effect. I am too busy holding the thing the right way up and concentrating on the action, to be bothered trying to make it power down!

I have had 1 lock up with the 20D (I cannot remember if the grip was attached) it was early on in my ownership (I registered quickly with my dealer and was No 4 on the waiting list after the 20D was announced) and I still have the release firmware. :roll:

In use, I prefer to have the grip attached. My hands are not that big, but it makes the camera a bit more secure to hold and the vertical controls are a blessing. :wink:

AndyD
__________________
10D+Grip, 20D+Grip, 17-40f4L, 70-200f4L, 100-400L IS USM, 28-135 IS USM, 50f1.8MkII, 420EX LowePro Photo Trekker AWII and a bad back!
AndyD is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 14-04-2005, 00:16   #18 (permalink)
Feet under the table
 
IanC_UK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Northampton
Posts: 2,136
IanC_UK is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
Thanks for that I am still tempted to get down there and get one ! and a couple or 3 batteries of course !

Decisions decisions ! next one i need to save for is the 100-400 IS L lens !
IanC_UK is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 14-04-2005, 00:20   #19 (permalink)
New here
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Cambs, UK
Posts: 38
AndyD is an unknown quantity at this point
User's Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by IanC_UK

Decisions decisions ! next one i need to save for is the 100-400 IS L lens !
You will not be dissapointed! :wink:
AndyD is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 14-04-2005, 00:27   #20 (permalink)
Feet under the table
 
IanC_UK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Northampton
Posts: 2,136
IanC_UK is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyD
Quote:
Originally Posted by IanC_UK

Decisions decisions ! next one i need to save for is the 100-400 IS L lens !
You will not be dissapointed! :wink:

COOL wonder if there anywhere that hires em out ? LOL
IanC_UK is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 14-04-2005, 18:03   #21 (permalink)
Getting Comfy
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Solihull, West Midlands, UK
Posts: 111
SDK^ is an unknown quantity at this point
User's Gallery
I've had no problems with my 20D and Grip.
The batteries last forever so it takes a while for the battery indicator to show half capacity.

As a rough guide

Saturday I used the camera with an IS lens from 7:30am to about 6:30pm (11 hours), it was always on and I took just over 1200 photos.
Sunday I used the camera for about 3 hours taking 100 photos.
Tuesday I used the camera and IS lens at a track day and took 550 photos before the batteries died completely.

So I guess with the batteries fully charged you could get 2000 images out of them.

The problem isn't with the grip, it's just the batteries last a long time
__________________
|| Canon 20D | 17-40L | 24-70L | 100 USM Macro | 100-400L IS| 550EX | Photo Trekker AW II ||
SDK^ is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 14-04-2005, 18:42   #22 (permalink)
CT
Feet under the table
 
CT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: West Mids UK
Posts: 3,368
CT is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by SDK^

The problem isn't with the grip, it's just the batteries last a long time
I'm coming to the conclusion it really is that simple!
CT is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 14-04-2005, 18:55   #23 (permalink)
Feet under the table
 
IanC_UK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Northampton
Posts: 2,136
IanC_UK is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
Looks like i need a visit to me nearest shop then !

Anybody seen them cheaper than Jessops? i shall start doing the trawls, not sure about buying off ebay, but can get one for 93 on there!
IanC_UK is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 14-04-2005, 22:42   #24 (permalink)
Forum Regular
 
Steep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Inverness
Posts: 960
Steep is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
119 in 7dayshop
Steep is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 15-04-2005, 09:21   #25 (permalink)
Feet under the table
 
IanC_UK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Northampton
Posts: 2,136
IanC_UK is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
OOOOOOH Cool thanks Steep !
IanC_UK is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 15-04-2005, 10:02   #26 (permalink)
Forum Regular
 
Steep's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Inverness
Posts: 960
Steep is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
I just can't help myself
Steep is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 15-04-2005, 10:04   #27 (permalink)
Feet under the table
 
IanC_UK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Northampton
Posts: 2,136
IanC_UK is an unknown quantity at this point

Image editing O.K.
User's Gallery
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steep
I just can't help myself
LOL

Keep it up mate, i keep forgetting 7dayshop !
IanC_UK is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
D50 battery grip JMitchell General photography questions and answers 13 06-02-2007 16:43
Battery Grip Mike Aiken Cameras, Lenses and Accessories 16 01-03-2006 20:51
D70 Battery Grip DavidUK Cameras, Lenses and Accessories 5 10-12-2005 19:15
Anyone using the battery grip on the 20D? dod Cameras, Lenses and Accessories 25 10-08-2005 22:25
Canon BG-E1 Battery Grip 59.99 Marcel Suppliers, Shopping and Bargains 0 20-01-2005 22:52


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 07:34.


vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
ReviewPost & PhotoPost vB3 Enhanced, Copyright 2003-2014 All Enthusiast, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.3.0
Copyright 2006 - 2017 Pixalo.com

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197