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Old 05-02-2012, 23:50   #1 (permalink)
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5D or 7D

I retire in January next year (with annual leave owing I reckon I can go early December this year). My present to me will be a new camera. I have narrowed it down to 2 - either the 5 or 7D.
I currently own the 500D, so the 7 would have the same size sensor, but the 5 has the full size sensor, and size matters doesnt it?
Im going to keep the 500 as a backup, and i have always been a Canon guy, so no point recommending a Nikon!
What do you think?
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Old 06-02-2012, 00:37   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 5D or 7D

Great idea

I've been retired two years at the end of February and I bought my D700 on the strength of it. You will always regret it if you don't do it when you have the chance.

Get the 5D but don't forget to also factor in the price of a couple of lenses. I bought the ubiquitous Nikkor 24-70 f2.8 - a great standard zoom - and a Nikkor 12-24 f2.8 wide angle zoom. I already had a 70-200. I'm sure that Canon will have a couple of decent lenses that will suit your needs.

I kept my D300 as a backup/second body so I also support keeping your old camera too.

I also got an SB900 flashgun as a retirement gift - so you could drop some hints for an 580EX.
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Re: 5D or 7D

5D - portraits, landscapes
7D - wildlife, action

There'll probably be a newer 5D and possibly 7D in the next few months, if rumours are to be believed!
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Re: 5D or 7D

i had the same choice to make when i got my7D ( two years ago almost now) i went for the 7D because of speed( which i saw as more important than full frame and still do- but then im not a landscape tog), and because i use the 10-22mm a fair bit which wont go on the 5D.
do i regret my decision? not a hope in hell,. but i am thinking of getting the 5DmkII this year as well.
But look at what you shoot more often. I dont do a lot of landscapes... if i did maybe my choice would have been different
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Re: 5D or 7D

Thanks for the advice guys. I only have one EF-S lens, but its the one I use all the time. I have two others which are EF and would fit, but I was already thinking of replacing the 75 - 300 USM with the IS model. I was hedging more towards the 5D as I do more portraits than anything else, but the 5D is £500 more than the 7, and factor in the cost of at least one new lens its getting to be rather expensive.
Mind you, it would seem I now have an excuse to buy a lens or two in the next ten months, so when (if) I get the 5D I wont need any extra lenses!
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Old 06-02-2012, 10:40   #6 (permalink)
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Re: 5D or 7D

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the 5D is £500 more than the 7D
That settles it. 5D definitely.

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factor in the cost of at least one new lens its getting to be rather expensive.
Drop in the ocean with a retirement pot to play with

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Mind you, it would seem I now have an excuse to buy a lens or two in the next ten months, so when (if) I get the 5D I wont need any extra lenses!
I like your thinking
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Old 06-02-2012, 12:48   #7 (permalink)
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Re: 5D or 7D

Whichever one you go for I can thoroughly recommend this company for price and service I and 2 of my friends all bought our 7D's from them.

I was naturally skeptical when I saw their prices but they are real people you can ring up and talk to, not a mythical Hong Kong ghost, they e-mail you as soon as they recieve your payment and the camera usually arrives by courier within 1 working day.

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Old 06-02-2012, 13:20   #8 (permalink)
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Re: 5D or 7D

Those prices do look very good

I wonder why they don't appear in the UK Camera Pricebuster?
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Re: 5D or 7D

I chose the 5D Mkii as my photography is mostly landscape and portraits. I also take low light shots for which the low noise 5D is ideally suited. However, I do take some action shots (including birds in flight and sport) and, although the 7D would be better for these subjects, my 5D Mkii has coped fine. As well as the subjects you take, it also depends what you do with them. I produce A3 sized prints for competitions so I can really benefit from the 5D's larger format. If you are producing smaller images or images for web only, then you would not really benefit from the 5D larger format. Ideally, I would like to own the 5D Mkii and a 7D but, if I did, I would use the 5D most often.

If you do buy the 5D with a lens then I can strongly recommend the Canon 24-105mm f4 L IS. I use this as my walkabout lens but also for many outdoor environmental portraits and indoor studio portraits.

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Old 06-02-2012, 16:25   #10 (permalink)
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Re: 5D or 7D

Personally I've never looked back since moving to full frame. I really love mine.
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Re: 5D or 7D

Same here, I love the full frame on the 5D MkII, I use it more than the 1D MkIII, which just gets used for action now. If you do more portraits than anything, it's the way to go, especially if you get a nice 50mm prime as well. I'd also recommend the 24-105mm f4L as a walkabout and general lens.
I have used mine occasionally for sports as well and it can handle it pretty well.
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Old 06-02-2012, 19:51   #12 (permalink)
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Re: 5D or 7D

I went for the 7D as I take more action shots. It was a huge step up from my 500D in every way so even if you choose a 7D you won't regret it. I never used my 500D after getting the 7D there was no need so I sold it and have no regrets. I know people with both 5Dii and 7D and they seem to get equal use but for different things.

As for lens the best thing I have ever bought to do with photography is my 70-300L even on the 500D it was awsome.

7D with a 15-85mm

5dii with a 24-105mm

add a 70-300L and a nifty fifty and you have the full package.

The 5Dii has a replacement due sometime!!! So that might change your choicein the next 8 months.
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Old 06-02-2012, 20:25   #13 (permalink)
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I wonder why they don't appear in the UK Camera Pricebuster?
A little bit of research established that their address seems to be a PO Box for the company (no physical presence). They sell grey imports from Hong Kong, which in the case of cameras, the warranty will not be honoured by Canon UK. It also appears that a lot of people have purchased from this company satisfactorily but in the case of warranty their camera has had to be returned to HK.

I'm not knocking this company and I have no personal experience of them. What I have written above are other people's experiences I obtained by simple searches on the web. HTH.
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Re: 5D or 7D

To get back on-topic - I've had a 40D and a 5D and I got fed up of taking two cameras everywhere. So, I had a similar problem and I sold them both and got a 7D. My reason is that I think the 7D is a better allrounder than a 5D is and that suited me.
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Same here, I love the full frame on the 5D MkII, I use it more than the 1D MkIII, which just gets used for action now. If you do more portraits than anything, it's the way to go, especially if you get a nice 50mm prime as well. I'd also recommend the 24-105mm f4L as a walkabout and general lens.
I have used mine occasionally for sports as well and it can handle it pretty well.
i too like the 24 - 105mm but i used it for a TKD shoot and it failed miserably,
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Re: 5D or 7D

Thats great information, thanks everyone! So, a 5D with a 24 - 105 lens seems the way to go for me, and at some point upgrade my 75 -300 to a 70 - 300L. I already have a 50 prime, and the other lens can stay with the 500D, though I wont sell that one until Im used to the 5 and then re-consider. Im not one to get rid of things though so I may just keep it just in case anyway! Now, warehouse express, lets have a look........
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i too like the 24 - 105mm but i used it for a TKD shoot and it failed miserably,
I thought yours was the 28-105, Fiona?
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A little bit of research established that their address seems to be a PO Box for the company (no physical presence). They sell grey imports from Hong Kong,
Thanks Sherlock

On the couple of items I checked they are cheaper than One Stop. I wonder if their customer service is as good?
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An extra camera with a lens on it for the "all of a sudden" picture is always a good idea. Have a good time walking into retirement.
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i too like the 24 - 105mm but i used it for a TKD shoot and it failed miserably,
It's early and I don't have enough caffeine in my system yet, but please, what's a TKD shot?
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I think you are probably right that the cameras supplied by HDEW are grey imports but at ther time I bought mine it was a good £200 cheaper than anyone else so I have no problem with that.

The 1st year is standard warranty, The second two years warrant is supplied by Xtend cover, I have no experience of them but tbh that was my main focus when buying.

As long as you don't mind that it's a grey import then I have yet to find a bad review.
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While Im at it, I was thinking I may as well try and pick up the 100mm macro that Canon do.....'er indoors is going to go bananas! Mind you, I wasnt planning on telling her and all these lenses look pretty similar dont they? Now to arrange delivery while she is out........... Im going to have to spread the cost between now and December..
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I wasnt planning on telling her and all these lenses look pretty similar dont they?
Since my return to dSLR photography with my D70s back in 2005, I have bought a D300, a D700, a 14-24 f2.8, a 24-70 f2.8 and an 85mm f1.8 and not told my wife

I bought the D300 in Jessops when they had a great price, so no problems in smuggling it indoors as with the 85mm lens. Grays of Westminster very sportingly sent the last three items in one very big box to my next door neighbour.
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I don't tell OH so conversation goes: "You bought WHAT?!!"
followed by "Well, can I borrow it?"
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After some research I can get the 5d from Amazon for £1519, the 24 - 105 from Harrison cameras in Sheffield for £749, the 70 - 300 from Wex for £1124 and the 100 macro for £689 from Park cameras.
Has anyone used One Stop digital? I can get the 100 macro for £609; the 24 - 105 for £713 The others are no cheaper.
I can also get a SH 70-300 from Ebay for £700 and £630 will see a 24-105. Im watching a 100 macro at £400 plus P&P but there is a day to go on it yet so may well rise further. Im thinking of getting the 100 macro first as I have lenses which cover the other focal lengths for now, I can replace those later.
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Has anyone used One Stop digital? I can get the 100 macro for £609; the 24 - 105 for £713 The others are no cheaper
Many of us have used One Stop including myself. They are a good company. However since the global financial meltdown their prices have often been beaten in the UK. Look at UK Camera Price Buster to check.

They are showing the 5D for £1499 + £5 delivery. The 70-300L is £1089 inc delivery and the 100 f2.8 macro for £414 inc delivery.
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Sorry - the price for the 100 was not the 100L. That is shown as £689.
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I thought yours was the 28-105, Fiona?
i have the 28-105mm IS and the 24-105 mm L IS
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Many of us have used One Stop including myself. They are a good company. However since the global financial meltdown their prices have often been beaten in the UK. Look at UK Camera Price Buster to check.

They are showing the 5D for £1499 + £5 delivery. The 70-300L is £1089 inc delivery and the 100 f2.8 macro for £414 inc delivery.
i love ONe stop digital i just hate the fact they use fed ex who can get a parcel from hong kong to glasgow in 3 days but have an inability to get it to grangemouth a mere 35 miles in less than a week so while they use fed ex i wont use them again
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