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Old 13-10-2009, 23:39   #1 (permalink)
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Hi there folks

I have a younger friend who wants to get into digital photography. He is quite young so he is not looking for anything fancy or expensive, but he also does not want to go the film route.

His point and shoot just broke so he is looking at getting an entry level DSLR, what would be a good entry level DSLR to start off with? Nikon D40? D40X (Not sure where you will find them nowadays unless you buy used) Is the D60 or the D3000 from Nikon any good? What about Canon? or Sony?

(He would like to stay away from purchasing 2nd hand as he had some terrible exp with buying 2nd hand stuff)

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Old 13-10-2009, 23:41   #2 (permalink)
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canon 400D or 450D........... 400D has been superceded so he might be able to get one for a decent price. im sure u can get them on ebay for a couple hundred cant comment on Nikon cos i only use canon.
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Old 14-10-2009, 08:03   #3 (permalink)
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All of the main brands will give decent results, so the advice has to be, as always, handle two or three different makes and see which one feels better in terms of the handling. The position of the controls has to be comfortable and logical to the user. Accessing and changing the settings also has to suit the user.

Once that hurdle is crossed he can concerntrate on looking for the bargain. It is easier to have one make/model in mind when you are searching for something.
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Old 14-10-2009, 09:45   #4 (permalink)
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I use Nikon but all the main manufacturers DSLRs give great results. If there is a difference it used to be that the Nikon bundled entry level lenses were slightly better but I don't know if that is still the case. Just in terms of choice I'd recommend Nikon or Canon as Sony et al; have less choice of whizz bang lenses for the future and they tend to be more expensive.
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Old 14-10-2009, 10:30   #5 (permalink)
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I agree with graham any of the top brands are OK Canon Nikon Pentax Olympus in any order! My first DSLR was a D70 it can still deliver the results eg.12x16 exhibition quality pictures but do tell your friend its not just the camera its a good quality printer thats needed as well! but none of this equipment will be any good at all if your friend is not enthusiastic about going out and taking pictures!
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The working to a budget and not buying secondhand will be a tricky issue.

I would suggest that buying secondhand need not be that risky if you buy through a friend that you know or maybe on a forum like Pixalo from a long standing member. There are definitely some good deals that appear from time to time and in 99% of the time the cameras bought through those methods will be excellent.

A third option is to buy from MPB Photographic (they adertise on this site and in the members market), they specialise in second hand camera equipment and offer a guarantee with all items sold...prices are usually ever so slightly more than a private second hand sale but you do get the reassurance of a guarantee.
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I would not get a base Nikon because of not focusing in lenses without a motor in ,it's only Nikon that do this I think.
As the guys say ,with the gear being better (Digital SLRs) as apposed to a few years ago, most any DSLR will fulfil his criteria.
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Can heartily recommend the Canon EOS 350, 400, or 450 "D" series....
Dependant on budget, and how much is available to spend, that is, but for a good budget with the ability to get "All the toys" with change, this camera can be bought with "Extra's", such as a couple of lenses and flashgun, memory cards, spare battery, and a carry case/bag for under a grand, if you know where to look....
As people have upgraded, the 350D and 400D, both still excellent camera's for entry to DSLR are available second hand in VERY good condition.

They come with an Idiots guide thats easy to read, a book of words that goes into detail for future improvement, and an easy start green box "Full Auto" mode that will take photo's that will blow their socks off if this is the first DSLR they have ever had....
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These are entry level camera's, but will take all EOS fitting lenses and attachments, and the extras you buy will fit larger bodies if you upgrade, and that is only if you need to upgrade, because the advanced modes are that good, any new user will stick with them for a while...
Not saying the bigger Cannons are not that significantly better, they are, no doubt in that, but for Entry level, and Learning, this one doesnt break the bank, and allows you to learn relatively comfortable in the knowledge that what you are getting is good, and the extra's dont frighten you, as could be the case if you went from point-and-shoot to the top of the range, and were over faced with all the extra buttons.
I came here from a Pentax ME super 35mil, and whatever I could take with that, and all the extra's I had for it, can be done much better with the Canon.
The Pentax was my Dad's camera, and he was "Pro"

Now where do I get my commission as a junior sales exec for cannon?....
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I would say that at first it does not so much matter if he buys a second hand or a new low budget camera. ( My first real camera was a Canon 450D).

He should buy something which gives him manual control on things and then should go out and shoot trying to find something he loves to shoot.
This may take a while but during this phase, the equipment is almost unimportant.

After he found his photographic subject he loves to shoot, he will also know what he needs to buy next.

Not so much a buying advice but I still hope it helps.
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I would not get a base Nikon because of not focusing in lenses without a motor in ,it's only Nikon that do this I think.
As the guys say ,with the gear being better (Digital SLRs) as apposed to a few years ago, most any DSLR will fulfil his criteria.
Canon do it as well, it's just they do it with all their cameras. They abandoned FD mount support when they brought out the EOS mount since then all lenses that autofocus have had in built motors.
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