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Old 05-03-2009, 13:10   #1 (permalink)
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Advice on new lens.

Hi to all,
I would like to buy another lens (second hand) and need help. I am a complete novice but would like to buy something decent, so if my photos are c--- I cannot blame the equipment. I am interested in nikon 80/200mm 2,8 or nikon 18 / 200 vr. Another reason being if everything goes pear shaped, I should still get good resale value. I would like to be able to cover a few things, nature, amateur football, landscapes. I am enjoying my new hobby and hope to advance it, with all the knowledge that you experienced photographers have. I am a library member and I am loading up with books and I am going to find out about night school.
Many thanks in advance,
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NIKON D200. NIKON D70.
NIKKOR AF-S 18-70 1,3,5-4.5G.ED DX.
SIGMA APO MAKRO 180MM 1:3,5D
NIKKOR 50MM. 1:1,8 OLD MANUAL LENS.
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Re: Advice on new lens.

I'm not a Nikonian so can't be of much help on specific lenses, but... I'm a fan of wide-range zooms (especially the Tamron 18-270), but you have to accept their limitations. If you're looking for something that is capable of the very best image quality (so any faults are down to you ) you really need to look at either prime lenses or zooms that are not compromised by having such a wide range.
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Re: Advice on new lens.

Looking at your lens line-up, you have the 18-180 range covered, albeit with different lenses and with a gap in the 70-180 range. The Nikkor 80-200 is a teriffic lens that will plug that gap very nicely, but I think it will fall short for football and some nature use. A 2x converter might be one solution, but maybe something like the Sigma 150-500, or the older 50-500 would be better, although slower.

The 18-200vr is a really good all-round lens, as is the Sigma 18-200 and 18-250 or as silky points out the Tamron 18-200/18-270. However, I don't think that these would be best for the sport/nature use where longer lenses are of more use.

Depending on the amount of photography that you are going to be doing that requires these longer focal lengths, the 80-200 gives a more useful range and it is fast too. If sport and nature is what you are going to be shooting in the main, I'd look for something longer and stick with what you have for general use.
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Re: Advice on new lens.

Many thanks, Dabhand and Silkstone, for your advice. Another question, how about the 70 - 300 vr.
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Re: Advice on new lens.

The Sigma 70-300 APO or the Nikkor 70-300 vr are both very good lenses, but not in the same league as the Nikkor 80-200 f2.8 you mentioned, so I did not include them.

You have the 18-70 Nikkor - a great lens that I used a lot before I got the 17-55 f2.8, so an 70-300 would fit nicely in with that. Although 300mm is a better bet for wildlife and sport neither of the 70-300s are very fast, although the Nikkor has vr - but that will not work for sport or wildlife.

Of course if you shoot when the light is good, or you crank up the ISO you will get acceptable results.

As I said before, you need to estimate the amount you will be shooting sport/nature and landscapes, then make the compromises on the subject you will be doing least.
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My two cents worth
You want something that can do everything for you to a decent extend, but knowing it will not be perfect. That is how I started. I learned as much as I could with a lens or a camera and then sell it when I gotten what I can out of it.
Landscape - The name of the games here are: Wild and Composition. You work on your compsition and let the lens get you as wide as you can go. Your 18-70 will do that for you already. Shoot around dawn and around dust and you will learn much as well as enjoy much of your landscape shot.
Nature - Not sure what you mean here, but I am guessing plants and flowers and such with a few animals. I am suggest you use the sharpest lens you have - which in your case is your lovely 50mm f1.8 or your Sigma. Shooting after a rainfall or a snowfall will do wonders to your pictures.
Football as in soccer right? Don't shoot in the rain - it is cold and wet and generally miserable - I hate doing it! On a sunny day, your Sigma 180mm is your best friend. No it does have the reach of a 300 or a 400 or a 500 and no it does not have the speed of a f1.4 or f1.8 or even f2.8 but who cares! On a sunny day you don't need such large apertures anyways! Sporting events, any sporting events has a natural flow to them. Learn to shoot with the flow and you will find that you won't need to have so much reach all the time. Would the 300VR be a good lens absolutely, but your sigma lens is a pretty darn fast lens that is LIGHT! You can move much fast and shoot much easier with that on your camera than the 300 or the 80-200. I think you have a great set of lenses already and can really make alot great picture with them - for the price of a used 80-200 or a 300 think about getting some off camera lighting and you will really be having fun then! (See Strobist)
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