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Old 29-11-2007, 22:45   #1 (permalink)
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Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

At nearly 4x the price of the Canon EF 50mm 1.8f II is the Canon EF 50mm 1.4f USM really that much better.

I'm looking into getting myself a nifty fifty and just wondering is the 1.4f version of this lens really worth that extra cash? Not that either are expensive but could be better spent elsewhere.

So all nifty owners out there your advice would be greatly received.
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Old 29-11-2007, 23:13   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

Had both, far prefer the 1.4

Its more solidly built, has more aperture blades, has a nicer filter diameter (ie more of my filters fit on more of my lenses) and produces images that are somehow just smoother.

As far as sharpness and contrast go, I reckon you'd really need to get a magnifying glass out to see any difference.

Having said this I got my 1.4 for a very good price and had a mk1 1.8 to sell so it ended up costing me about 20! Retrospect is wonderful so of course I'd get a 1.4 straight off but discarding that, realistically I'd think twice if I was paying full whack.
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Old 30-11-2007, 00:08   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

In terms of VFM I think the 1.8 wins hands down. If VFM is not a priority.........
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Old 30-11-2007, 08:02   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

I can't comment on the 1.4 but I have a 1.8 Mark 1, metal mount, super build quality and I am more than happy with it. For the restricted use that it gets I have no reason to buy the 1.4.
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Re: Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

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I can't comment on the 1.4 but I have a 1.8 Mark 1, metal mount, super build quality and I am more than happy with it. For the restricted use that it gets I have no reason to buy the 1.4.
I'm also the same as Stepheno. That said, the faster USM motor of the 1.4 would be useful in low light gig shots. However that comes under the 'nice to have' heading.
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Re: Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

Under the Nikon guise there were some reports of the f/1.8 actually being sharper than f/1.4 , so unless you needed the extra light or extra shallow DOF, for Nikon bods the f/1.8 makes sense.
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Old 30-11-2007, 09:11   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

I have the Canon 1.8 and to be honest I very rarely use it..........I did have the Nikon 50mm 1.4 when I was shooting with Nikon and again it was a lens I just did not use
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Old 30-11-2007, 10:24   #8 (permalink)
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Re: Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

I have the Canon 50/1.4 and absolutely love it. The improvements over the f/1.8 version are (in my opinion):

- sturdier construction and metal lens mount (the latter also on mkI versions of the f/1.8 like stepheno's)
- 8 aperture blades (rather than 5), so specular highlights look better in defocused areas and arguably the bokeh is nicer - although that's a matter of taste
- it has USM for faster and quieter focusing
- and obviously, it's a bit faster with maximum f/1.4

One minor thing to note is that it uses 'micro USM' rather than 'ring USM', which means it uses a clutch mechanism for full-time manual focusing. Hence it feels weird if you are moving the focus ring when you attempt autofocus.

The f/1.8 version is better value but for me I prefered the build of the f/1.4 and the other improvements were a bonus.

Here's a shot illustrating the nicer highlight spots on the f/1.4 model:



On the f/1.8, those out of focus highlights would be pentagons rather than octagons and thus less circular.
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Old 30-11-2007, 10:31   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

They're both excellent in their own way. If money is no object, the build quality of the f/1.4 is much better, and there are the other features already mentioned. However, the 'Plastic Fantastic' f/1.8 II is almost as good in terms of image quality, and the chances are that nobody looking at your pics will know which lens was used.

So if the extra cost of the f/1.4 means that something else has to be put on hold, I'd go for the f/1.8.
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Re: Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

Anyone got one of these to comment about?

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Re: Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

Not got one rhodopsin but I have heard (web reviews) that some copies have AF problems.
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Re: Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

Re f/1.4 vs f/1.8, is it not true that the sweet spot for a lens is usually starts a few stops in from max aperture ? Thus for f/1.4 lens in theory it's images at f/2.8 could well be nearer to that sweet spot , than for f/1.8 lens at f/2.8 ?
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Re: Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

I've read in a few places that theres almost nothing between the image quality and sharpness that is produced by the 1.4 and the 1.2 L series.
A friend of mine has a 50 mm 1.4 and it's really a beautiful lens but I'd really like to try out the 1.8 because it's such an affordable lens!
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Re: Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

Cheers Guys for your replies.

This will be a purchase after christmas and to be quite honest i'm not sure just how much use a nifty would get from me! My main reason for buying is that i keep getting requests from family and friends to take portraits of their kids and animals, something i have done very little of and a 50mm would be a good lens for this. So at this precise moment i'm leaning towards the 1.8f and at 55 from Onestop i think the VFM as Dab puts it is too good to turn down.

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Re: Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

It makes sense to get the cheaper type first and see how you get on. I predict you'll end up using it a hell of a lot more than you might imagine
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Re: Canon 50mm 1.4f vs 50mm 1.8f II

I guess I'm lucky as my wife is my side kick when it comes to cameras, we shoot togather (half the time) and split money togather for camera goodies. We have bought one lens in the last year,,,sooo that speaks for it self. I have the 1.4 and 1.2. different lenses and different uses. The 1.4 really is mine and the 1.2 is the wife's,,,it is a natural night shooter and the wife will use it to take pic's of the kids around the house with ease. Let me just put it this way. " I am very lucky to have started off with the 100-400mm IS L telephoto, the 1.4 50mm and the 17-40mm L, all canon lenses. So why would I want to use the 1.2, it cost. It is 72mm of pure lense, works wonderful, fast and clear and if the wife dosen't have it I will. But my 1.4 is lighter and on my IR camera even though it will cause hot spots. I cleared that up with a little rubber type lens hood that I pull out, works great for that now. I hear people say they never use a 50, I think it is the 50mm window frame that gets under your skin. With a little creative thinking and moving around you can get to just about any angle and be happy with it. But still,,,,,,,,,,,,
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