CF #4 Option 1

**stepheno** · 07-02-2006, 21:08

Does anybody use this option? It seems a logical choice to me, to be able to set focus and metering independently. Well I gave it a go this evening and found it very strange and wonder whether I would adjust to it.

Any experience or opinions welcomed. TIA. PS I'm using a 20d.

regards

Matt · 07-02-2006, 21:39

All of the time.

Can't answer in full, need to go to work

**stepheno** · 07-02-2006, 21:47

Hard luck if you have to go to work at 9.39pm

Thanks for the reply - I look forward to some enlightenment.

regards

07-02-2006, 22:08

If it's the AE/AF lock, then yes, I use it all the time too.

It was wierd trying to get used to it at first, and away from the squeeze and shoot mentality but that doesn't take long

IanC_UK · 07-02-2006, 22:10

I use it all the time too

SDK^ · 07-02-2006, 22:43

I also use it all the time, not much else I can say.

CarlOgden · 08-02-2006, 00:02

I tried and failed miserably....Think I'll try it at 3 Sisters on Saturday and if successful, use it Sunday as I can afford to loose Saturdays images but race day would be bad!!!

Carl.

08-02-2006, 00:08

What's it like at 3 sisters? Ive been tempted to have a venture up sometime. Can you get quite near the action?

**stepheno** · 08-02-2006, 07:00

Well...you're replies have convinced me to give it a prolonged trial. Thanks for your opinions.

regards

Warspite · 08-02-2006, 08:30

I've heard about a number of people using it and seems a bit unusual at first but Im going to give it a go also - as unusual as it may feel, it does actually appear a more logical layout to work with.

KenCo1964 · 08-02-2006, 09:11

Well I'm probably the only one on here who doesn't understand, I just can't see what difference it makes....using the shutter button for focus and the ae button for ae.....or vice versa?
Looking forward to someone enlightening me.

dod · 08-02-2006, 09:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by KenCo1964

Well I'm probably the only one on here who doesn't understand, I just can't see what difference it makes....using the shutter button for focus and the ae button for ae.....or vice versa?
Looking forward to someone enlightening me.

The biggest advantage as I understand it is that it seperates exposure and autofocus, handy in situations where you're subject could be changing from one lighting situation to another.

Say for example a motorbike moving from a shaded part of the track to a brightly lit one ideally needs two different exposures. If you use only the shutter button to set focus and exposure the problem is that the exposure is locked to the first actuation so taking a burst of shots could give exposure issues. Seperating them gives you the ability to maintain autofocus but also adjust exposure. You really need to try to change the method you shoot, not take bursts but try to take individual shots. Not easy.

At least that's what I understand it does anyway, I'm sure I'll be corrected if it's not

**stepheno** · 08-02-2006, 12:16

That's right Dod. Also with single shots say, you might be shooting a building in front of bright sky. Using CF#4 you can expose for the sky, lock it, reposition and focus on the building - or vice versa.

regards

Mr THX · 08-02-2006, 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by stepheno

That's right Dod. Also with single shots say, you might be shooting a building in front of bright sky. Using CF#4 you can expose for the sky, lock it, reposition and focus on the building - or vice versa.

regards

Can't this also be done with the buttons in 'normal' configuration....

sure I've done it before.

CarlOgden · 08-02-2006, 12:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel

What's it like at 3 sisters? Ive been tempted to have a venture up sometime. Can you get quite near the action?

It's okay. You can get quite close depending on where you stand. If you stand on the hill side on the furthest side from Lunar (Lunar is a very long sweeping corner where you enter the track) you'll be very close to the track. Lunar, with the sun in your face (if it is sunny) you'll be quite far away.

If you go Saturday it's free to get in as it's practice day. Sunday is £10.

I'm going Saturday to speak with the promotor as I've managed to get a photo of his son in Motor Cycle News this week and need a couple of passes for Sunday.

HTH,
Carl.

KenCo1964 · 08-02-2006, 13:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr THX

Can't this also be done with the buttons in 'normal' configuration....

sure I've done it before.

Yes! that's why I'm so confused. On the back of the 350d anyway there is a button for your exposure...which is the way I do it, then shutter button to focus or shoot. All that is being done is swapping the functions of the buttons round....and when anyone would expect to use the shutter button for the shutter, using a different button for the shutter seems weird.

SammyC · 08-02-2006, 14:05

I think the difference is that if you use the button on the back it only locks for one shot in normal configuration.

dod · 08-02-2006, 14:05

There's a subtle difference. Swapping the autofocus to the exposure lock button allows you to track subjects and not confirm exposure till you actually take the shot.

It's always a cause of debate anyway, check out this thread, all 15 pages of it

07-02-2006, 21:08	#1 (permalink)
stepheno Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,595	CF #4 Option 1 Does anybody use this option? It seems a logical choice to me, to be able to set focus and metering independently. Well I gave it a go this evening and found it very strange and wonder whether I would adjust to it. Any experience or opinions welcomed. TIA. PS I'm using a 20d. regards

07-02-2006, 22:43	#6 (permalink)
SDK^ Getting Comfy Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Solihull, West Midlands, UK Posts: 111	I also use it all the time, not much else I can say. Last edited by SDK^ : 07-02-2006 at 22:45.

07-02-2006, 21:39	#2 (permalink)
Matt Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Cheshire Posts: 1,326	All of the time. Can't answer in full, need to go to work

07-02-2006, 21:47	#3 (permalink)
stepheno Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,595	Hard luck if you have to go to work at 9.39pm Thanks for the reply - I look forward to some enlightenment. regards

07-02-2006, 22:08	#4 (permalink)
Marcel Posts: n/a	If it's the AE/AF lock, then yes, I use it all the time too. It was wierd trying to get used to it at first, and away from the squeeze and shoot mentality but that doesn't take long

07-02-2006, 22:10	#5 (permalink)
IanC_UK Feet under the table Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Northampton Posts: 2,137	I use it all the time too

08-02-2006, 00:02	#7 (permalink)
CarlOgden Quite Chatty Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Radcliffe, Manchester Posts: 62	I tried and failed miserably....Think I'll try it at 3 Sisters on Saturday and if successful, use it Sunday as I can afford to loose Saturdays images but race day would be bad!!! Carl.

08-02-2006, 00:08	#8 (permalink)
Marcel Posts: n/a	What's it like at 3 sisters? Ive been tempted to have a venture up sometime. Can you get quite near the action?

08-02-2006, 07:00	#9 (permalink)
stepheno Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,595	Well...you're replies have convinced me to give it a prolonged trial. Thanks for your opinions. regards

08-02-2006, 08:30	#10 (permalink)
Warspite Feet under the table Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Newcastle Sunderland Middlesbrough (UK) Posts: 1,736	I've heard about a number of people using it and seems a bit unusual at first but Im going to give it a go also - as unusual as it may feel, it does actually appear a more logical layout to work with.

08-02-2006, 09:11	#11 (permalink)
KenCo1964 Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Co. Durham England Posts: 1,069	Well I'm probably the only one on here who doesn't understand, I just can't see what difference it makes....using the shutter button for focus and the ae button for ae.....or vice versa? Looking forward to someone enlightening me.

08-02-2006, 12:16	#13 (permalink)
stepheno Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,595	That's right Dod. Also with single shots say, you might be shooting a building in front of bright sky. Using CF#4 you can expose for the sky, lock it, reposition and focus on the building - or vice versa. regards

08-02-2006, 14:05	#17 (permalink)
SammyC Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bristol Posts: 1,466	I think the difference is that if you use the button on the back it only locks for one shot in normal configuration.

08-02-2006, 14:05	#18 (permalink)
dod Feet under the table Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Nairn Posts: 1,911	There's a subtle difference. Swapping the autofocus to the exposure lock button allows you to track subjects and not confirm exposure till you actually take the shot. It's always a cause of debate anyway, check out this thread, all 15 pages of it