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Old 16-05-2012, 09:43   #1 (permalink)
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D200 lens

Hi

I ve just orderd a D200 Nikon.

I need a lens for it, preferably a bit zoo and a bit wide angle

i just ordered a AFG-S DX 55/200 but I ve been caught out by the calculations.....which makes this in film terms a 80/230 ....a bit too telephoto.

So I'm looking for a nice lens roughly 18-130 or there abouts ...in film terms 30- 150 zoom.

Thoughts , guys?



TIA

this is tempting but there appear to be issues with bright light...

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...LOh3nIwM4VyA6A


ps not mega bucks!!
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Re: D200 lens

NEW Nikon 18-55mm VR AF-S f/3.5-5.6G UK NextDay RM special Delivery (0018208021765) | eBay

is this any good?
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Re: D200 lens

If you want a general purpose 'standard' zoom lens, you could do worse than the excellent Nikkor 18-70. Normal human eye view equates to about 35mm in DX lens terms, so the 18-70 is equivalent to around 27-105mm. The 18-55 is OK, and for many digital cameras of all makes is the kit lens. I think that the 18-70 is a little more useful. There is also the Nikkor 18-105, and an 18-135.

Dearer but desirable is the Nikkor 17-55 f2.8.

On a short zoom like this VR is not going to be important unless you are going to do a lot of low light photography.
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Re: D200 lens

The 18-105mm AF-S VR kit lens that has been released with the D3000 -> D90 should fit your requirements. It has very good press with regard to picture quality for its money.

It has a plastic mount, and a plastic double cam zoom system which can work loose over a long period if regularly carried fully extended. (It's a good habit to retract the zoom, especially of these double cam zoom lenses when not in use)

If you are going to be regularly changing lenses you might prefer to look at metal mount lenses because the lower end of the Nikon AF-S range tend to have plastic mounts that can rapidly deteriorate with use. Nowadays metal mounts tend to be found only on the more expensive AF-S lenses. You might find older AF D type lenses (focusing motor is in the camera) with metal mounts more suitable. I say older, many are still on the Nikon list and available new. These can be sharper than the newer cheaper lenses and more robust, price for price, and the D200 will be able to drive them.

The D200 does have its limitations with battery power on some of the bigger lenses and focussing can be slight slower, but I guess you will be remaining on a tight budget, and so this is unlikely to concern you. Something to watch for though.
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Re: D200 lens

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If you want a general purpose 'standard' zoom lens, you could do worse than the excellent Nikkor 18-70. Normal human eye view equates to about 35mm in DX lens terms, so the 18-70 is equivalent to around 27-105mm. The 18-55 is OK, and for many digital cameras of all makes is the kit lens. I think that the 18-70 is a little more useful. There is also the Nikkor 18-105, and an 18-135.

Dearer but desirable is the Nikkor 17-55 f2.8.

On a short zoom like this VR is not going to be important unless you are going to do a lot of low light photography.

sorted

it'll get me started anyway

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18-70,s a gem
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18-70,s a gem


A I've just been discovering..... snag is i don't think my monitor's is doing it justice.

cuople of snags though

1) prob easily solved..... there are a couple of marks in the view finder. They don't show up in the pics. AS a sued e bay purchas eis this acceptable? The guy made it clear it was in used conditon so i guess I can't say much.

Is there a way of removing them?


2) the thing is enormoius!! I didn' trealise the size and weight of it. Going to have to make decision whether to go back to the D80 idea.

I like the flexibility of the lenses with this.

The menues are fine (after "playing " for half an hour but more complex than I need)

Anyone out there want a D200?? lol
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Re: D200 lens

The camera (start up, focus, view finder, results) is a stunner though.
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Re: D200 lens

The marks in the VF are probably marks or dust on the mirror or dust in the pentaprism somewhere. If on the mirror you might be able to dislodge them with a blower, but do not touch the mirror with anything as the surface is very fragile. As long as they are not showing on the images it is only annoying rather than somthing that you would have to remove on every image.

With regard to the size you will find that most if not all semi pro/pro cameras are bigger than the enthusiast/prosumer models. I'd give it a while and you will probably find that the D80 feels like a toy when you are used the the D200.
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Re: D200 lens

It has a great body hence the weight etc.

You will be thankful of it if you happen to ever drop it. I wouldn't recommend it though.

For wide angle stuff I think the Sigma 10-20mm takes some beating. A very nice lens.
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You made me start thinking. My D700 with the 24-70 weighs in at 2.2kg (a shade under 5lbs) but I can't say I notice it that much other than when I'm holding the camera in one hand and a flash in the other.

I really think it is something that you will get used to given time.
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You made me start thinking. My D700 with the 24-70 weighs in at 2.2kg (a shade under 5lbs) but I can't say I notice it that much other than when I'm holding the camera in one hand and a flash in the other.

I really think it is something that you will get used to given time.

Good Lord...

Roughly 2.5x my D200?

Yes I dare say you are right....I was just surprised.


My old Nikon 5700 = 512 g (with apologies for the new money)

a D80 585 or 685 with batts (dp review)

D200 is 830g




Your D700 2.2kg!
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It has a great body hence the weight etc.

You will be thankful of it if you happen to ever drop it. I wouldn't recommend it though.

For wide angle stuff I think the Sigma 10-20mm takes some beating. A very nice lens.


I think the local council would be having words with me......
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Good Lord...

Your D700 2.2kg!
That is the camera and the lens. I was surprised too 'cos it does not feel heavy. I did not weigh the camera and lens separately, but the Nikon web site says the camera minus battery is 995gms, so that makes the lens about 1100/1150gms. Fast lenses are heavy!
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It has a great body hence the weight etc.

You will be thankful of it if you happen to ever drop it. I wouldn't recommend it though.

For wide angle stuff I think the Sigma 10-20mm takes some beating. A very nice lens.

Im sure it does and I'm sure it is.

It its also about 300 quid.
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Re: D200 lens

Seriously , whislt we are on the subject, I'm shall be looking for some form of macro ability...whats the best way of doing this? Have I got that on the 18/70.................. learning curve here.
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I'm shall be looking for some form of macro ability...whats the best way of doing this? Have I got that on the 18/70.................. learning curve here.
No, you will need a dedicated macro lens for macro work. The Tamron sp90, Sigma 105, Nikkor 105 and Sigma 150 are good macro lenses. The two 105s have recently been updated so the old models will be available cheaper or used as people upgrade.

Simpbow uses a Tokina 100mm I think with good results.
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Thanks ....that's helpful.
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The marks in the VF are probably marks or dust on the mirror or dust in the pentaprism somewhere. If on the mirror you might be able to dislodge them with a blower, but do not touch the mirror with anything as the surface is very fragile. As long as they are not showing on the images it is only annoying rather than somthing that you would have to remove on every image.

With regard to the size you will find that most if not all semi pro/pro cameras are bigger than the enthusiast/prosumer models. I'd give it a while and you will probably find that the D80 feels like a toy when you are used the the D200.



My thanks to Dabhand for his advice.

I took the camer a out to my local tong church to have blaze about.

Its TOTALLY diferent tool to the cool pix thing. I'm very happy you guys told me Id got stay with this.... as you say just a question of adapting.

It's just doing so much more...
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My thanks to Dabhand for his advice.

I took the camer a out to my local tong church to have blaze about.

Its TOTALLY diferent tool to the cool pix thing. I'm very happy you guys told me Id got stay with this.... as you say just a question of adapting.

It's just doing so much more...
That is great news David Many people don't give their kit enough time. It is like a new car. Living with it can be very different from the test drive.

If you do find that the weight is a problem on your neck when using it for long periods, I can recommend the copy of the Black Rapid strap that I reviewed here

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That is great news David Many people don't give their kit enough time. It is like a new car. Living with it can be very different from the test drive.

If you do find that the weight is a problem on your neck when using it for long periods, I can recommend the copy of the Black Rapid strap that I reviewed here

Pixalo Photographic Equipment Reviews - RS-4 -

The strap is a good point, as it has been sent without one; I was quickly aware yesterday in the warm weather (sweating hands etc) that carrying around an expensive+heavy(ish) camera by hand is not on.......for any time.

I do need to source a proper strap.
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.....so it hangs from one end.....?

That's the accepted method of carrying a dslr?
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.....so it hangs from one end.....?

That's the accepted method of carrying a dslr?
No - there are many different strap systems. All camera makers tend to use the neck strap and there are also many aftermarket neck straps too, most, if not all of which are better than the ones supplied on the camera. This one uses a plate that fits on the tripod socket and the strap clips onto the plate.

The one I've reviewed is the best one that I've tried and it only cost 11.99. To see a video demo Google black rapid RS4 and on their web site there is a video. If you are impressed you can buy an e-bay copy like I did for 11.99. The Uk price for the Black Rapid is around 50.
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Its most certainly food for thought.

The tripod mounting makes alot of sense .....and it seemed to work for the guy in the vid!!

Thanks again for the word-up.
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No, you will need a dedicated macro lens for macro work. The Tamron sp90, Sigma 105, Nikkor 105 and Sigma 150 are good macro lenses. The two 105s have recently been updated so the old models will be available cheaper or used as people upgrade.

Simpbow uses a Tokina 100mm I think with good results.


Hi,

Just coming back to this (funds ...possibly.... being available).

Can someone educate me?

A 105 mm lens is going to be a bit telephoto...especiallly as if that means in "DX" or DSLR terms that equates to around 130mm?



Thanks V much...


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Re: D200 lens

More like 160mm. You have to multiply the focal length by 1.6 on a Nikon to get the DX focal length.
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More like 160mm. You have to multiply the focal length by 1.6 on a Nikon to get the DX focal length.
not trying to be (too) pedantic - I think nikons dx is 1.5 and canon's crop cameras / ef-s are 1.6 - not much different to be honest
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You are probably right. I could not remember which way round they were but as the difference was only 2.5mm I let it go.
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lol, yes it in scheme of things they are basically the same crop factor
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