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Old 26-11-2012, 12:37   #1 (permalink)
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D5100 what next

I am sorry if I confused a lot of people. I am just getting to grips
with photography.
Sorry Silver, I didnt relise a prime was a fixed focal length. My error

What I have is
D5100
Stock lens Dx 18-55mm 1:3.5-5.6G
ML-l3 remote
Miranda Titan TP10 Tripod
Manfrotto Compact MMC3-01

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Is the 18-55m a short focal length Zoom.

As regards to the wedding. decided to pic up a Flash as I think I can get away with the 18-55m and anything else. Use my fuji pics. The flash will allow me better control over the light. any adivce or ideas would be greatly welcome

I have read the advice on the other thead but though it wise to start my own.
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re: D5100 what next

The 18-55 is what most people will regard as a standard zoom, offering a reasonable focal length range from a wide-ish angle to very mild telephoto. Ultra wide angle zooms will go down to around 10mm - typically 10-20 or 12-24 and telephoto zoom lenses will start at 70mm and go up from there.

It is not wrong to call your lens a short focal length zoom but that description could also apply to the 10-20 or 12-24, both of which could be termed wide zooms.

Your camera will have around 30-35mm as a 'normal' human viewpoint with anything lower being wide angle and anything higher telephoto. So you will see that the 18-55 spans a bit either side of the normal view that your eyes will see.

For weddings you will need a lens that will do the group shots both outside and inside and your standard zoom lens should cover these, but a telephoto zoom lens such as a 70-200 or 70-300 would be very useful for close-ups, candids and isolating people within groups. This is why pros will use two cameras, one with each type of lens.

If the light is strong for the outside shots you will need the flash to act as a fill light so make sure you get one that is powerful enough to cover a group.
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cool, I thought you meant the 18-55 zoom lens,. one of the strange things with photography are the terms people use and they are easy enough to pick up

from the other thread "I think I will invest in the flash and stick with the 55mm and use the fine pics for any odd zoom shots."

I'm guessing you mean to use the fuji for subjects that are further away as it has more 'reach' (telephoto so you can more easily fill the image with far away subjects)? In that case a good option might be the 70-300 IS from canon,. quite a nice lens and in the scheme of things not too expensive,. that would give you a starting point of 18-55mm and 70-300mm which is good for many subjects

I disagree about using/needing a longer focal length / telephoto zoom (70-200/70-300) for weddings,. I know a lot of people who shoot multiple weddings will use a 70-200 2.8 for portraits but it is expensive and there are plenty of other options, none of which are needed for a single wedding for a friend,. they are bulky and simplicity is often the key - especially if you aren't really sure of what you're doing

ref weddings in general, there are likely lots of similar pieces on the i'net but one I think is mostly true Best of the photography forums - tutorials: Weddings for "soon to be 'ex' " friends

edit, re-reading,. the canon 70-300 IS won't work too well on a nikon camera! However a similar lens in the nikon lineup is the 70-300 VR, from what I have seen a fairly nice optic,. I don't know what 3rd party options there are in similar range or your budget etc etc
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Thanks Graham and Silver.
This is exaclty what I was after and the link you posted silver is great be it totaly honest.

Going to take me a little time to digest.:-)

First thing I intend to do is take my daughter out and do some portrate stuff
as I generaly have done landscape and a bit of macro. I have some time before the wedding and if nessesery to back out or not.

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Just an amendment to this.

I have told them that I wont be responsable for taking there pics as I am not a pro.
But I will have my camera and will take some pics. If they turn out good all the better if not
Hay Ho. I'm a guest.

Now the pressure is off. What would you guys recomend as a flash for such an occasions.
I have tried reading up but it a bit of a mine field.

I have up to 200 to spend but would perfer not to spend that much.

Any recomendations.
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Re: D5100 what next

Presuming that you will want to have auto flash functions any dedicated unit will do the job. Nikon, Metz, Nissin are all good. Not sure if they are within your price bracket though. Cobra and Sunpack are probably cheaper. If you want to be able to use the Nikon CLS system though, you will probably have to stick to a Nikon unit. Not sure if other makes even if they are dedicated to Nikon will allow remote triggering and flash adjustments for off camera use for instance.

Manual units are much cheaper. The LumoPro is favoured by David Hobby (Strobist) and will be under 200.

http://www.pixalo.com/community/news...ighlight=lp160

Youg Nuo YN560mkII has a good spec and is worth consideration:

YONGNUO, photographic equipment, camera accessories, flash light, camera remote control, speedlite, photo equipment, LED photo light, flash trigger, camera wireless remote control, TTL cord

You can also consider used kit, but even now the Nikon SB800 usually make around 200.

A diffuser will be a good investment, but there are lots on the market to choose from, and some designs will work better than others in any given situation.
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Thank Graham

I was looking at a Nikon SB-700 Speedlight. It comes in at 199.00 after cash back offer.

Not having any dealing with remote flashes not sure if its a good flash. It sounds like it ticks the boxes.
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Did not realise that there was cashback available on the SB 700. You would not get a better flash for the money and it will have all of the advantages that the Nikon CLS offers. From memory, Nikon have left off some features on this model, but for most people it will be fine.

The other mainstream flashguns will be in a similar price band. Only the manual LP160 and YougNuo are cheaper and probably more powerful.

I've used several diffusers and for 90% of the time I'd say that the Chinese copy of the Gary Fong Lightsphere is worth consideration. I've had some decent enough results for both portraits and other shots.

Reviews and links to sample shots here

Pixalo Photographic Equipment Reviews - Flash Diffuser -

Pixalo Photographic Equipment Reviews - Lightsphere Diffuser -

Pixalo Photographic Equipment Reviews - Universal Camera White Balance Flash Diffuser -
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camera has a pop-up flash, which isn't great mainly because it has to point forwards, an add-on flash that allows you to rotate and direct light is much more useful

having said that I'm not sure I would get a flash at all, if you are often shooting in dark conditions and need to add light then get one, for a single shot deal how often are you going to use it (and will be really offer advantage over the pop-up flash)

I was at a wedding recently and many of the guests were using the inbuilt camera flashes, the main thing I noticed is they paid no attention the the existing lighting condition, so they'd have subjects pose back-lit and shoot toward windows etc

9/10 times they would have been better to turn off the camera flash and move people to have beautiful natural light, that still holds true with an add-on flash (in terms of turning off the flash and moving the subject)

the lightsphere type diffusers I think are somewhat pointless and more often you are better simply bouncing light off of walls rather than have the light come from the direction of the camera
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one of the threads posted regarding these add-on flash gizmos, Pixalo Photographic Equipment Reviews - Universal Camera White Balance Flash Diffuser - - I suspect most people will prefer the one without flash (well to me at least it looks the best) - sure looking closer it has camera shake but that is operator error rather than anything else
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Thanks Guys
Well that has given me something to think about.

I will be using the flash for other things. So wont be a waste of money.

I hadnt concidered a defuser but will now.

There is lots of things I want but like to master what I have first.
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Silver - there is no camera shake on the picture that you refer to, it is simply a reference to compare the performance of the diffusers. There might well be depth of field issues as I was using a very wide aperture. Either way, the lighting is unaffected. You say that you prefer it to the others, but the very narrow depth of field combined with the slow shutter speed required for available light photography usually makes it unsuitable for the sort of picture that Fitztastic wants to capture.

I have found the diffuser that I reviewed to be very good in situations where the roof is too high to allow bounce flash and the nearest wall is too far away or is coloured. The light effectively bounces from the dome on the diffuser - and this is a constant. Most speedlights are not powerful enough to bounce from the walls or ceilings of anything other than a domestic house room and certainly not a hall.

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camera has a pop-up flash, which isn't great mainly because it has to point forwards, an add-on flash that allows you to rotate and direct light is much more useful
That is why he is asking about speedlights.

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I was at a wedding recently and many of the guests were using the inbuilt camera flashes, the main thing I noticed is they paid no attention the the existing lighting condition, so they'd have subjects pose back-lit and shoot toward windows etc
That is because they are not photographers but happy snappers.

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the lightsphere type diffusers I think are somewhat pointless
Have you used one?

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What if the walls are too far away?
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Silver - there is no camera shake on the picture that you refer to, it is simply a reference to compare the performance of the diffusers. There might well be depth of field issues as I was using a very wide aperture. Either way, the lighting is unaffected. You say that you prefer it to the others, but the very narrow depth of field combined with the slow shutter speed required for available light photography usually makes it unsuitable for the sort of picture that Fitztastic wants to capture.
I read 'pictures at wedding' and that is a perfect situation for natural light photography, in the examples posted the colour / lighting is best on the natural light one, at least that to me is the most natural / pleasing,. the difference between f3.5 and f5 is not generally a deal breaker

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I have found the diffuser that I reviewed to be very good in situations where the roof is too high to allow bounce flash and the nearest wall is too far away or is coloured. The light effectively bounces from the dome on the diffuser - and this is a constant. Most speedlights are not powerful enough to bounce from the walls or ceilings of anything other than a domestic house room and certainly not a hall.
I would tend to disagree that those cases happen often, or much at all, you would be surprised how much bounce you get get off even high ceilings if you up the iso etc

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That is why he is asking about speedlights.



That is because they are not photographers but happy snappers.



Have you used one?



What if the walls are too far away?
I have used a stofen type diffuser and seen many examples of images with larger diffusers and there is generally no or little advantage in my opinion, it would also take away the ability to direct the flash. if people want to use them great, each to their own

we could say I guess in one sense everyone is a happy snapper, and what works for some for others will be a complete pain,. the essence of learning what is going to work personally is a journey of experimentation and discovery and that has to be made by each of us,.

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I read 'pictures at wedding' and that is a perfect situation for natural light photography,
Maybe you should have read 'indoor pictures at a wedding'. Most people don't use flash outdoors - even when they should.

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I would tend to disagree that those cases happen often, or much at all, you would be surprised how much bounce you get get off even high ceilings if you up the iso etc
Many people find that high noise from ramping up the ISO is as bad as any other fault in a picture. The inverse square law has no respect of photography. If you are taking a picture of a subject 10 feet away, but the light path to bounce from the ceiling is 25 feet, you will need a very powerful flash indeed. That is assuming that the ceiling is flat and white.


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I have used a stofen type diffuser and seen many examples of images with larger diffusers and there is generally no or little advantage in my opinion, it would also take away the ability to direct the flash. if people want to use them great, each to their own
Yes Stofens are not very good at all, and I can assure you that the biggest diffusers I've used at over a metre square in the studio make a significant difference to the light - and they can be directed to any angle you like.

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we could say I guess in one sense everyone is a happy snapper, and what works for some for others will be a complete pain,. the essence of learning what is going to work personally is a journey of experimentation and discovery and that has to be made by each of us,.

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That is what I've been doing in the 58 years I've been taking photographs
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Maybe you should have read 'indoor pictures at a wedding'. Most people don't use flash outdoors - even when they should.



Many people find that high noise from ramping up the ISO is as bad as any other fault in a picture. The inverse square law has no respect of photography. If you are taking a picture of a subject 10 feet away, but the light path to bounce from the ceiling is 25 feet, you will need a very powerful flash indeed. That is assuming that the ceiling is flat and white.




Yes Stofens are not very good at all, and I can assure you that the biggest diffusers I've used at over a metre square in the studio make a significant difference to the light - and they can be directed to any angle you like.



That is what I've been doing in the 58 years I've been taking photographs
we'll continue to disagree, I didn't see Fiztastic mention indoor, but we tend to read-in to things our own perspective, actually indoors for natural light is even better

indoors at a wedding natural light can be amazing,. it's a shame guests (and some pro photographers) reach first for a flash when natural light can be much more flattering and beautiful

I won't ask how many weddings you've shot in 58 years as it would be beside the point, you have your approach and after a such a period is unlikely to change

I hope Fiztastic has fun and experiments because that is a good way to learn, not having the weight of expectation to provide 'the' wedding pictures will be liberating,. try not to repeat what the 'pro' does but find your own images (and move people to the light!)
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Fiztastic did not mention the word 'indoor', but neither did he ask about using flash outdoors. About 50% of pictures taken at a wedding will be indoors, so it is not unreasonable to believe that the purpose of his buying a flash would be primarily for indoor use

I'm not disagreeing with you about natural light can be amazing. It can. However using natural light in indoor situations requires very careful set up, the use of a tripod, acute depth of field awareness and plenty of time. The very opposite of the wedding situation where other than the formal set pieces, often grab shots to capture a moment or people on the dance floor form the bulk of the memories of the day, not a carefully set up portrait near a window.

You are also right in saying that we all develop our own styles. Perhaps you can show us some of your pictures to illustrate the technique that you are advocating?
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Wow. I think its great to get one persons perpective but reading what both you have put
is why I said it was a Minefield and was well worth asking the Question.
It was the same on other forums where the question of flash and no flash was asked at weddings.

I have read around and will be going with the SB700. Found a nice overview on youtube.
It comes with an array of diffuses and a bounce board built in. I will still be getting a seporate diffuses as
suggested buy Graham.

Although I wont now be responsable for the pics. I want to go prepared. A flash gun wont make
the photos but I would rather have one than need one.

I did take some pics at my daughters engagment and Flash or no flash even ramping up the ISO the qualty
was not very good. Maybe my inexperiance or may be my onboard flash wasnt up to it. To late to do anything about it now.

Thankyou both of you for your input. It was most welcome as I didnt know which way to go.

On the day I will just be taking happy snaps but hopefully armed to get some good ones.
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The important thing is to enjoy the experience. You might want to try different things - no flash, flash with and without diffusers, and bounce if possible. Then you will be able to see what results you get and what tweaks you might need to make to improve. Not being the official 'tog is a huge advantage as it allows you far more lattitude if you don't have to get a particular shot in the bag.

Practise as much as you can before the event. It will pay dividends on the day.
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I think you can read in what you like, indoors is where I would suggest natural light works best because you have windows you can use, the 50% indoors is wholly speculative and 'wedding images' can be either inside or outside, in either case it makes little difference to the point I was making regarding use of natural light

we could say it's a matter of 'style' or at least of approach because some feel flash is the way to do things and others disagree or tend to use a lot less flash, my advice is to seek out what you like because no one can say which is 'best', it's just an opinion

I could show you 1000's of examples of natural light wedding photography but not sure what it would prove, all I can say from what I've seen is on camera flash (whether diffused or not) will seldom provide beautiful images, rather they tend to look flat and uninteresting, as soon as you get light coming from another direction you have options to create something with potential and drama
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Wow. I think its great to get one persons perpective but reading what both you have put
is why I said it was a Minefield and was well worth asking the Question.
It was the same on other forums where the question of flash and no flash was asked at weddings.

I have read around and will be going with the SB700. Found a nice overview on youtube.
It comes with an array of diffuses and a bounce board built in. I will still be getting a seporate diffuses as
suggested buy Graham.

Although I wont now be responsable for the pics. I want to go prepared. A flash gun wont make
the photos but I would rather have one than need one.

I did take some pics at my daughters engagment and Flash or no flash even ramping up the ISO the qualty
was not very good. Maybe my inexperiance or may be my onboard flash wasnt up to it. To late to do anything about it now.

Thankyou both of you for your input. It was most welcome as I didnt know which way to go.

On the day I will just be taking happy snaps but hopefully armed to get some good ones.
having a flash can be useful and I am not suggesting flash should never be used, rather that it is easy to overuse and not see what is possible with existing light

experiment, have fun and enjoy the experience as that is for sure the best approach
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on camera flash (whether diffused or not) will seldom provide beautiful images, rather they tend to look flat and uninteresting, as soon as you get light coming from another direction you have options to create something with potential and drama
Agreed! But although some wedding images can be beautiful, the memories of Uncle Sid doing a break dance or the impromptu conga line or other fast moving situations require compromises to be made to actually get the shot rather than just leave a fading memory. Nobody would think that these are beautiful pictures, but not to have them in the set would leave a big gap, regardless of how beautiful the other pictures are.

I'm not saying that every picture should be taken with a flash and diffuser, but merely that that if you are going to use a flash, this combination will allow you to get acceptable shots in any situation, particularly when things happen and fizzle out very quickly, where your stance appeared to be that using natural light is the only way and the use of a flash is best left to the uneducated.

I've used several types of diffuser and they all have their advantages and disadvantages, but the Lightsphere type lend themselves well to the biggest range of situations. They can also allow bounce flash by removing the dome and also be used off camera (as can any flash and diffuser combination) with the help of an assistant holding them using the Nikon CLS or radio triggers, but if you are on your own, you need to be self-sufficient.
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if you want a picture of uncle sid break dancing then chances are you may need to use flash (certainly some kind of additional lighting given a dark room and no outside light) - I would say you can do with bounced flash 9 out of 10 times (or more) and while I can't directly compare a specific diffuser product I do know you can get nice shots where the flash is not coming from the direction of the camera by bouncing flash - http://neilvn.com/tangents/flash-pho...hy-techniques/ is fairly good source of such information

wedding shots though are more than dance shots of uncle sid and most of most wedding days in the UK there is natural light, inside or out and in those cases the first recourse IMO should be to use natural light, others will disagree that's fine but to me flash is a last resort not the first (that's perhaps where we differ)

an external flash is needed for shooting a wedding if you are expected to produce images across the whole day/into the night to a nice standard (i.e. it's your job),. however for a guest at a wedding that changes totally because it's not their job, the on camera flash is perfectly good for dark situations where you simply need to illuminate uncle sid, the rest of the day and those situations natural light is very effective when used correctly (I would say better than flash most of the time),. plus most guests won't want to carry or be bothered with an external flash

really I would suggest as a guest not to take a dSLR at all but to enjoy the wedding
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This is were we are all the same. Who out of us on this forum does not take there camera every where
Looking for that perfect shot.even at the disgust of our other halves.

ALthough I am inexperianced I judge myself as compatent at most things.
I will post any decent pics i think have merrit.

As with all things it will be a steep learning curve.
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Coming in late in this thread, just to add a few thoughts (some may be obvious and I'm not saying that you haven't thought through these already)...

Like many, I personally like natural lighting, but if you have to use a flash for any reason, it is always nice to make the result as inconspicuous as possible (e.g. flare (not just direct glare) in various forms from reflections).

Camera built in flash:
- will likely give red-eye with the longer focal length (> 30mm)
- will only give a low flash output that will limit the effect to only a few metres
- fill in flash (typically 1 stop less than ambient exposure) needs to be done with matrix or centre weighted metering, ordinary flash (ambient exposure is not considered) will need spot metering
- if you are preparing jpeg files only* then the colour balance will be automatically set by the camera to the best balance between ambient light and flash

SB700
- comes with a diffuser and a filter for use with ambient fluorescent* or ambient tungsten light*. You are unlikely to need any other filters immediately, unless you want to work with special circumstances.
- when mounted on the camera will probably only give you red-eye with longer focal lengths (e.g. 200mm)
- will give significantly more power output for working in large halls etc. (38 at ISO200)
- using the CLS system you will still need your on camera flash, which can result in red-eye at the wrong angles. As Silver suggested, better to use off camera flash with a cable or remote (e.g. YONGNUO as Graham suggested).
- neither your camera or the SB700 have a flash cable (PC) socket so using a flash off camera with a cable will need a hot shoe cable if you want to work with a hand held off camera flash
- fill in flash (SB700 setting TTL/BL) needs to be done with matrix or centre weighted metering, ordinary flash (SB700 setting TTL) will need spot metering, UNLESS you set the SB700 otherwise.
- if you are preparing jpeg files only* then the colour balance will NOT be automatically set to the best balance between ambient light and flash. You will need to set the white balance (e.g. TTL option on the SB700 and white balance on the camera set to Flash). If using TTL/BL you will need to set the white balance to the ambient light (normally WB=auto) and if necessary add a filter (WB=incandescent, add incandescent filter, provided with SB700).
- practise bounce flash in all angles, in different room sizes and colours, using different configurations (filters, diffuser etc.) with SB700 settings of TTL or A until you are blue in the face, to understand the benefits and limitations of bounce flash. In the end you should be able to get results that closely resemble natural light!!
- obvious but often missed, keep an eye on the indicators that tell you the flash is ready to fire, and if using CLS, turn off the SB700 audible CLS "flash ready" signal while you are in the church.

* If you are producing only jpeg files it is important to set your white balance correctly. For RAW it is only advisable as you can correct the WB later but it is useful to see the correct result so keep a check on your white balance. With the SB700 the camera will not compensate the white balance as it does for the on camera flash, so you will need to set the camera's white balance to Flash if using the SB700 unfiltered flash. If you are taking photos at the reception, for instance, you may be working with tungsten lighting. In that case set the camera to incandescent white balance and add the amber filter to the flash gun. You will then get photos that have an even white balance.

Generally the SB700 will be easy to use but it is useful to get a grip on the nuances. The link that Silver gave on flash techniques is useful.

As a last thought, try the red-eye compensation with the SB700 in case you think to use it in a real world situation, but you may be put off by the time it takes to fire the pre-flashes in order to close the subject's pupils. My experience is that this facility works with the on-camera flash but the external flash (SB700) is too slow to get anything spontaneous.
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Thanks GP
Another bit of great info.
Thanks for the heads up on the SB700.
Going to sneek it on my visa card when my OH is not looking.
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most of most wedding days in the UK there is natural light, inside or out and in those cases the first recourse IMO should be to use natural light, others will disagree that's fine but to me flash is a last resort not the first (that's perhaps where we differ)
Thinking about what you have said (not just here, but previously too) I don't think that is where we differ. I think that where we differ is maybe the in the venues. If you are used to attending weddings in country houses or large hotels or any similar building that is geared up for weddings with large dimensions, sweeping staircases, extensive well maintained gardens and other features such as a lake or stream, maybe a bridge too and a building that has floor to ceiling windows, more glass than bricks in the walls on two or more sides and more of a ballroom than a dance floor then I can see why you have the opinions that you have.

I'm more used to the village or church hall - often dark and dingy due to few and/or small windows or a room in a club often with dark ceilings and sometimes no windows. If you are lucky you might have a car park, but often it won't have any tarmac.

I think that we are both taking our own environments as the norm and not taking into account that what we are used to is not necessarily what others have to work with. If I am right in this I suspect that we are not so far apart at all, but are just playing the cards we have been dealt with the appropriate tools to do the job.
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Thanks GP
Another bit of great info.
Thanks for the heads up on the SB700.
Going to sneek it on my visa card when my OH is not looking.
I forgot that you are into amdram, so there could be a desire to try other filter effects as per those on stage (other than the 2 provided in the kit). For dramatic effects the SB700 can be set to zoom and using a wider angle lens it is possible to get lighting as if from a snoot, to highlight someone's face for instance ... add a coloured filter and I'm sure you could turn a lovely angel into a witch.
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just as an update. They have booked a pro wedding photographer so pressure off.
Bonus month next month so going look for a deal at harrisons in Sheffield. After a sb700 and a
Nikon 70-300 if funding permits.

Thanks every one for there input.
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Wedding day tomorrow.
Picked a sb700 up so have everything I need. As said. No pressure as
They have a photographer.
They have asked me to just take some random pics.
I know the photographer so no ego issues. I will try to keep out of his way.

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Two sets of battery's.
A few sds cards.
Spare Fuji camera.

Won't be carrying it all round. Find I like the prime but will keep the 70-300 close.
Should be a laugh. Might post a pic of the stag day out at paint ball.
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Good luck Fiz Whatever happens - just enjoy it.
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