D70s CF Compartment Problem

Arkady · 29-10-2005, 16:26

Some were a genuine case of stress, but most were 'rubber thumbs' - brute force and ignorance plays a big part in these guys' ways of doing things, despite what the TV and movies would have you believe.
We started charging them for damage that was in our view 'preventable' and almost overnight the trouble stopped (in a 'normal' army unit this is par for the course, but with 'Special Needs' troops it's often overlooked as they usually have more important things to worry about. However, this was in a Training Environment, not Operational and there's just no excuse for clumsiness and stupidity. As we pointed out when the Big Bosses complained about our 'prissy' attitude - if the operator damages the camera while on a job, the job is wasted. It may have been that the 'job' was a recce that was the culmination of a covert entry into a hostile country involving submarines or unmarked transport aircraft, helicopters, free-fall HALO insertion and miles of marching over mountainous terrain - millions of pounds of time and effort wasted just because the CF card was inserted back-to-front. He took our point and now they get billed for damaged equipment).

You also have to see it from Jessop's and Nikon's point of view - how much more likely is it that the customer b*ggered up his own camera than the pins 'just bent themselves'?

Venomator · 30-10-2005, 16:30

You also have to see it from Jessop's and Nikon's point of view - how much more likely is it that the customer b*ggered up his own camera than the pins 'just bent themselves'?[/quote]

Maybe so - but, assuming all things are indeed equal, how as likely is it the pins may have been faulty and perfectly correct insertion of a CF card results in a bent pin ... or two in my case ? At the end of the day I am resigned to having to pay for now - clumsy, stupid or just plain unlucky but ... and it is an uphill but I will take the cause forward one way or another.

Thank you also for the info behind the D100 story !

***Steve*** · 30-10-2005, 17:13

Just a thought for when it comes back...make sure that you check all your cards for any possible damage or blocked holes etc before inserting them into the repaired body. On the offchance that they caused the problem in the first case I would hate for you to have the same thing occur. It's a bad thing to happen once but twice doesn't bear thinking about.

Arkady · 30-10-2005, 18:21

True - hadn't considered that - always keep your cards in the hard plastic card-case and inside a soft wallet.
Chucking them in your pocket gets them full of fluff and biscuit crumbs.

30-10-2005, 18:42

LOL How true, although I'll be buggered if I know where the biscuit crumbs from...who keeps open biscuits in their pockets? :lol:

Arkady · 30-10-2005, 18:57

No-one - it's like the tomato bits in yer vomit - the faeries put them there...

noah · 30-10-2005, 20:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkady

No-one - it's like the tomato bits in yer vomit - the faeries put them there...

tomato, i'd always thought they were carrots!

***Steve*** · 30-10-2005, 21:10

Carrots and tomatos? That reminds me..what is it with sweetcorn..goes in yellow and come out the same--thats just plain wrong

Arkady · 30-10-2005, 21:25

two meals for the price of one - rinse and use again

Venomator · 31-10-2005, 17:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve

Just a thought for when it comes back...make sure that you check all your cards for any possible damage or blocked holes etc before inserting them into the repaired body. On the offchance that they caused the problem in the first case I would hate for you to have the same thing occur. It's a bad thing to happen once but twice doesn't bear thinking about.

thanx Steve - should be easy for me, being new to DSLRs I only have one CF card so far - will check it when I get home this evening !

I had a thought, given their excellent pre-disposition for after sales service, and assuming my P & J is not returned in time for my holiday in two weeks (highly unlikely !) I may just have to purchase a new D50 from them to take on holiday.

If it subsequently proves unsatisfactory compared to my original choice I suppose I could then return it as being unsatisfied, within their terms, and request all my money back ... or could I ???

Anyway, thanks again everyone,

29-10-2005, 16:26	#31 (permalink)
Arkady Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Aldershot, Hampshire Posts: 1,198	Some were a genuine case of stress, but most were 'rubber thumbs' - brute force and ignorance plays a big part in these guys' ways of doing things, despite what the TV and movies would have you believe. We started charging them for damage that was in our view 'preventable' and almost overnight the trouble stopped (in a 'normal' army unit this is par for the course, but with 'Special Needs' troops it's often overlooked as they usually have more important things to worry about. However, this was in a Training Environment, not Operational and there's just no excuse for clumsiness and stupidity. As we pointed out when the Big Bosses complained about our 'prissy' attitude - if the operator damages the camera while on a job, the job is wasted. It may have been that the 'job' was a recce that was the culmination of a covert entry into a hostile country involving submarines or unmarked transport aircraft, helicopters, free-fall HALO insertion and miles of marching over mountainous terrain - millions of pounds of time and effort wasted just because the CF card was inserted back-to-front. He took our point and now they get billed for damaged equipment). You also have to see it from Jessop's and Nikon's point of view - how much more likely is it that the customer bggered up his own camera than the pins 'just bent themselves'? __________________ "When I hold a camera, I Know no fear..." Alfred Eisenstadt* Nikon D2x Bodies x2 14mm f/2.8 Sigma; 17-24mm f/2.8 Nikkor; 28-80mm f/2.8 Nikkor; 24-85mm f/2.8-4 Nikkor; 80-200mm f/2.8 Nikkor; 300mm f/2.8 Nikkor; 600mm f/4 Nikkor SB-800 Flash x2

30-10-2005, 16:30	#32 (permalink)
Venomator Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 922	You also have to see it from Jessop's and Nikon's point of view - how much more likely is it that the customer bggered up his own camera than the pins 'just bent themselves'?[/quote] Maybe so - but, assuming all things are indeed equal, how as likely is it the pins may have been faulty and perfectly correct insertion of a CF card results in a bent pin ... or two in my case ? At the end of the day I am resigned to having to pay for now - clumsy, stupid or just plain unlucky but ... and it is an uphill but I will take the cause forward one way or another. Thank you also for the info behind the D100 story ! __________________ V...* Nikon Gear ... always

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30-10-2005, 17:13	#33 (permalink)
*Steve* Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: An Englishman living in Germany Posts: 16,374	Just a thought for when it comes back...make sure that you check all your cards for any possible damage or blocked holes etc before inserting them into the repaired body. On the offchance that they caused the problem in the first case I would hate for you to have the same thing occur. It's a bad thing to happen once but twice doesn't bear thinking about.

30-10-2005, 18:21	#34 (permalink)
Arkady Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Aldershot, Hampshire Posts: 1,198	True - hadn't considered that - always keep your cards in the hard plastic card-case and inside a soft wallet. Chucking them in your pocket gets them full of fluff and biscuit crumbs.

30-10-2005, 18:42	#35 (permalink)
Marcel Posts: n/a	LOL How true, although I'll be buggered if I know where the biscuit crumbs from...who keeps open biscuits in their pockets? :lol:

30-10-2005, 18:57	#36 (permalink)
Arkady Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Aldershot, Hampshire Posts: 1,198	No-one - it's like the tomato bits in yer vomit - the faeries put them there...

30-10-2005, 21:10	#38 (permalink)
*Steve* Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: An Englishman living in Germany Posts: 16,374	Carrots and tomatos? That reminds me..what is it with sweetcorn..goes in yellow and come out the same--thats just plain wrong

30-10-2005, 21:25	#39 (permalink)
Arkady Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Aldershot, Hampshire Posts: 1,198	two meals for the price of one - rinse and use again