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Old 07-02-2012, 19:32   #1 (permalink)
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D800 and hardrives

With the annoucement of the new D800 nikon Dslr at 36 million megapixels im thinking anyone who buys one is soon gonna have a file storage problem to a point, plus it seems the general opinion is that the camera will be more subceptable to camera shake etc and a tripod will be more used with this new camera.
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Old 07-02-2012, 20:08   #2 (permalink)
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It's been on my mind for a while now too....I have raw files from a 7D at 28mb each. Currently I back up to a 1tb hd and also to DVD. Dual-layer DVD isn't much cop since it doesn't like multi-session so I'm seriously considering a Blue-ray burner.
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'm seriously considering a Blue-ray burner.
I'm sure that ages ago I did a news item on Delkin blue ray discs with a 25GB capacity and were guaranteed for 200 years.

Found it

http://www.pixalo.com/community/news...tml#post213216

Not bad from 3 1/2 years ago.
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Old 07-02-2012, 21:17   #4 (permalink)
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The thing is they are now at a reasonable price.
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The thing is they are now at a reasonable price.
I guess they did not sell many at the original price!
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I use a Drobo with 4 x 1TB drives giving me 2.7TB of secure space.

The beauty is the Drobo can use any drives you want so I'll start buying a 2TB or two once they become cheap enough but you do not need to buy identical drives of any kind and can even mix and match sizes.
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As I fill up my images system drive (currently a 2TB in a 7TB system) I buy another drive and the old one becomes my external backup. At the same time I upload to the Cloud, which occurs automatically
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How much can you send to the cloud ?

Almost a rhetorical question but one that has stopped me thinking about this storage method.

I wonder if the files are split over several servers, where these are and what happens if the company (or country in which they are in) running them decide they cannot be bothered to do this any more.
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I've never found a cloud service for photos that was really up to the storage level I needed without costing a fortune.

They tend to be around 10GB for a reasonable price and then high costs above.

Whilst Flicr pro is unlimited it obviously compresses images so whilst I use it I do not percive it as an option for long term security. Also as above whose to say that they don't pull the plug or worse.

I previously used iDisk from Apple which gave me 10GB storage but this was really only for general documents as once again this would not be enough for photos. Since iDisk has been superceeded by iCloud it is even worse now as the space is unlimited for photos but it only stores them for 30-days. You cannot store non-apple type files either as it uses an interface directly to Apple applications rather than an online hard disk.

Has anyone found the 'holy grail'?
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I use Carbonite - unlimited storage (so all my pics go up there) for an unlimited time. They've been around probably as long as anyone (I used their limited service about 5 years ago!) and have a good, well respected reputation and cost about £30/year (on a 3 year deal)
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I use Carbonite - unlimited storage (so all my pics go up there) for an unlimited time. They've been around probably as long as anyone (I used their limited service about 5 years ago!) and have a good, well respected reputation and cost about £30/year (on a 3 year deal)
So for clarity can you just backup whatever files you like?
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Re: D800 and hardrives

When I bought my PC 4 years ago it had twin 750Gbyte hard Drives (Raid 1) and was a typical Dell model. I bought two 1T Byte external HD's for back up. Looking at typical computer configurations from Dell, I see that the typical offer is twin 1 T Byte HD's and typical external HD's are 2 T Bytes. Now based on Moore's law I would have expected at least twin 3 T bytes internal and at least 4 T Bytes external drives. Ram on my original PC was 4 G Bytes so again I would expect about 16G Bytes to be normal now but typically the equivanet Dell models offer 8 - 12 G bytes. It would appear from this brief analysis that we are no longer maintaining Moore's Law. However, like others, I am now running very tight on space.

It is a good idea to use more than one back up media and using a cloud is a good option if you have a reasonable upload speed. I only use a very limited (free) cloud for my most critical photographs. I would be concerned that using any auto back up with a large cloud, it would be continuously backing up while I was trying to edit. How does this auto backup work in practice with typical upload speeds?
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So for clarity can you just backup whatever files you like?
Yup, pretty much - video and >4GB only with paid subs

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I would be concerned that using any auto back up with a large cloud, it would be continuously backing up while I was trying to edit. How does this auto backup work in practice with typical upload speeds?
Well, it can't backup an open file (so one you're editing). Uploads are throttled by Carbonite, depending on subscription, but I've never found this a problem. If you allow locally unthrottled uploads there is some speed impact on your other downloads but this is unrelated to Carbonite (any continuous upload will have an impact) - I run all my uploads/downloads through software where I can control the speeds. The major downside is that you tend to leave system running 24/7 - but I've done that with my systems for years anyway!

Oh, and watch out if you've a service provider contract with capped data - uploads usually count in the total
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I use Carbonite as well and once it's completed the initial backup it keeps up pretty well, it also has some cloud like features in that you can access your files anywhere from any internet machine and it saves multiple versions of files. I do have a local external Drobo for convenience and immediate backup but of course that has the usual issue with on site connected backups. As for the size of D800 files they are only sightly larger than the D3x and both of them pale into insignificance compared to working with HD video.
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It's been on my mind for a while now too....I have raw files from a 7D at 28mb each. Currently I back up to a 1tb hd and also to DVD. Dual-layer DVD isn't much cop since it doesn't like multi-session so I'm seriously considering a Blue-ray burner.
Boy,,this is a great thread. I too am thinking blue-ray. I like the system, or systems. 1 Photography 2 geneolgy and 3 DVD movies"family" I've made over the years (hard drive storage). I have just moved my hardware to the level where I can use these cloud servers, but I just can't find the will to bend to the trend it seems to make. And that's money for someone else. I have three different back-up systems for each and I package them into the proper anti-static containers for storage. I don't know why but this makes me miss "Silky" as he might make me laugh right now. I hang out here because of the honest imput and humor I recieve when I need to move ahead in this ever changing life style. maybe I should have a little nip.
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