Does anyone with the 17-40.......

digitalfailure · 29-01-2006, 21:23

Do any of you 17-40 L owners use the supplied hood or the Canon EW-83D II hood on the lens?

A wee while ago I was going to buy the 83D-II hood but then I had a think about it and decided to leave it and change my shooting style, Well today, all that changed. I was on the the pontcysyllte aquaduct today and couldn't get the shot I wanted down the valley because of the low sun causing lens flare from hell.

Does anyone have any experience with it, I don't want to shell out a load of cash on a hood if it'll not do the job as it looks very similar to the supplied hood.

CT · 29-01-2006, 21:55

I have the stock supplied hood with my 17-40L and I like to use it most of the time. The bad news from a flare point of view is that I don't think it actually does much if anything on a crop sensor camera, but I could be wrong.

I like to use a lens hood in preference to a filter to safeguard the front element from bumping into things.

digitalfailure · 29-01-2006, 22:13

CT it's because of the crop factor i'm needing the lens hood from a different hood.

i could use a rubber universal job.......but hey.....this is L series, i want to see that lil red ring

CT · 29-01-2006, 22:17

Got ya!

Mr THX · 30-01-2006, 12:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalfailure

Do any of you 17-40 L owners use the supplied hood or the Canon EW-83D II hood on the lens?

A wee while ago I was going to buy the 83D-II hood but then I had a think about it and decided to leave it and change my shooting style, Well today, all that changed. I was on the the pontcysyllte aquaduct today and couldn't get the shot I wanted down the valley because of the low sun causing lens flare from hell.

Does anyone have any experience with it, I don't want to shell out a load of cash on a hood if it'll not do the job as it looks very similar to the supplied hood.

I use the supplied lens hood for the very reasons CT mentioned. Would rather the hood gets knocked/scratched than the lens. What are the main difference's between the supplied hood and the one you considered buying ??
I use mine on my 20D and TBH don't notice any problems even when wide open.

digitalfailure · 30-01-2006, 18:27

The reason I want to use a different hood on the 17-40 is because the supplied one still allows flare.

The other hood still appears to be a pettle type.

I keep a UV filter on the front to prevent damage to the front element of the lens.

ASH · 30-01-2006, 18:38

I use the supplied hood, but then I didn't know there was another hood.

Mr THX · 30-01-2006, 19:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by digitalfailure

The reason I want to use a different hood on the 17-40 is because the supplied one still allows flare.

The other hood still appears to be a pettle type.

I keep a UV filter on the front to prevent damage to the front element of the lens.

Yea I use a UV filter too, but I still like the hood being on for when you need to put the camera down on a hard surface - the underside of the lens doesn't touch anything then.

Not noticed the 'still allows flare' problem though, thing is unless you have some kind of bucket at the end of your lens at 17mm I imagine you'll always be susceptable to a bit of the dreaded flare ??

If you do get to try another hood though please let us know how it is........

Mark Grant · 01-02-2006, 18:25

The Canon EW-83DII from the 24mm 1.4 L is better apparently, as long as you are using a 1.6 X body.

Not cheap though for a piece of plastic, about £40 amazon
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...081802-3198216

or the usual ebay sellers

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Canon-EW-83DII... cmdZViewItem

Certainly looks better than the 'saucer' that is supplied with the 17-40.

Not tried one myself yet, so who is going to order one

?

edited to ad,

How about a proper bellows shade such as Lee
http://www.tyi.ca/SalesOrdersHoods.htm

A bit spendy though !

Mark.

digitalfailure · 01-02-2006, 19:02

Your right about the model of hood to use and your right again about it being a heck of a lot of money for a piece of plastic.

I don't have an account at the online auction site you mentioned, and i don't want to pay 2x the cost in a uk shop

What I do need though is a hood that works on this lens, I suffered some terrible flare problems at the weekend which have ruined some otherwise stunning images.

dod · 02-02-2006, 13:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr THX

Not noticed the 'still allows flare' problem though, thing is unless you have some kind of bucket at the end of your lens at 17mm I imagine you'll always be susceptable to a bit of the dreaded flare ??

HAven't really noticed any flare on mine either, even shooting more or less straight into the sun.

Sean_Mcr · 05-02-2006, 17:07

I had the 16-35 and the hood was not much use on my 1.6 crop. Lens flare is part of owning a lens, but there's more to flare then meets the eye.

A good article on the subject http://www.luminous-landscape.com/co...03-01-12.shtml A little more here http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/flare.shtml

P-E · 26-06-2006, 09:13

If it is of any interest to anyone.......

I bought the EW-83DII for a 16-35 but it is a very tight fit and needs some force that I have abandoned that and now use the EW-83H hood which is off the 24-105.

Works fine on a 1DMKII with the 1.3 crop

Here is an article that may help.

David Burren Photography - Alternate Canon hoods

silkstone · 26-06-2006, 09:28

Keep the EW-83E hood (supplied with the 17-40) handy in case you buy the Canon 10-22. It's perfect for that, and there's no hood supplied.

29-01-2006, 21:23	#1 (permalink)
digitalfailure Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: on the floor Posts: 694	Does anyone with the 17-40....... Do any of you 17-40 L owners use the supplied hood or the Canon EW-83D II hood on the lens? A wee while ago I was going to buy the 83D-II hood but then I had a think about it and decided to leave it and change my shooting style, Well today, all that changed. I was on the the pontcysyllte aquaduct today and couldn't get the shot I wanted down the valley because of the low sun causing lens flare from hell. Does anyone have any experience with it, I don't want to shell out a load of cash on a hood if it'll not do the job as it looks very similar to the supplied hood. __________________ I came, I saw, I broke it!!!

01-02-2006, 18:25	#9 (permalink)
Mark Grant Quite Chatty Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 83	The Canon EW-83DII from the 24mm 1.4 L is better apparently, as long as you are using a 1.6 X body. Not cheap though for a piece of plastic, about £40 amazon http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...081802-3198216 or the usual ebay sellers http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Canon-EW-83DII... cmdZViewItem Certainly looks better than the 'saucer' that is supplied with the 17-40. Not tried one myself yet, so who is going to order one ? edited to ad, How about a proper bellows shade such as Lee http://www.tyi.ca/SalesOrdersHoods.htm A bit spendy though ! Mark. __________________ http://www.pbase.com/markgrant/ 20D, 24-105 f4 L IS, 70-200 f2.8 L IS, Canon 100mm f2.8 Macro USM, Canon 1.4x extender, Canon 550EX, Canon MT24EX, Manfrotto 055 Tripod with 322RC2 head. Last edited by Mark Grant : 01-02-2006 at 18:35.

05-02-2006, 17:07	#12 (permalink)
Sean_Mcr Getting Comfy Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Manchester Posts: 123	I had the 16-35 and the hood was not much use on my 1.6 crop. Lens flare is part of owning a lens, but there's more to flare then meets the eye. A good article on the subject http://www.luminous-landscape.com/co...03-01-12.shtml A little more here http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/flare.shtml Last edited by Sean_Mcr : 05-02-2006 at 17:09.

26-06-2006, 09:13	#13 (permalink)
P-E Loves the place Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sheffield, S.Yorkshire UK Posts: 7,504	Re: Does anyone with the 17-40....... If it is of any interest to anyone....... I bought the EW-83DII for a 16-35 but it is a very tight fit and needs some force that I have abandoned that and now use the EW-83H hood which is off the 24-105. Works fine on a 1DMKII with the 1.3 crop Here is an article that may help. David Burren Photography - Alternate Canon hoods

26-06-2006, 09:28	#14 (permalink)
silkstone Feet under the table Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Silkstone Common, Yorkshire, UK Posts: 3,415	Re: Does anyone with the 17-40....... Keep the EW-83E hood (supplied with the 17-40) handy in case you buy the Canon 10-22. It's perfect for that, and there's no hood supplied.

29-01-2006, 21:55	#2 (permalink)
CT Feet under the table Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Mids UK Posts: 3,500	I have the stock supplied hood with my 17-40L and I like to use it most of the time. The bad news from a flare point of view is that I don't think it actually does much if anything on a crop sensor camera, but I could be wrong. I like to use a lens hood in preference to a filter to safeguard the front element from bumping into things.

29-01-2006, 22:13	#3 (permalink)
digitalfailure Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: on the floor Posts: 694	CT it's because of the crop factor i'm needing the lens hood from a different hood. i could use a rubber universal job.......but hey.....this is L series, i want to see that lil red ring

29-01-2006, 22:17	#4 (permalink)
CT Feet under the table Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Mids UK Posts: 3,500	Got ya!

30-01-2006, 18:27	#6 (permalink)
digitalfailure Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: on the floor Posts: 694	The reason I want to use a different hood on the 17-40 is because the supplied one still allows flare. The other hood still appears to be a pettle type. I keep a UV filter on the front to prevent damage to the front element of the lens.

30-01-2006, 18:38	#7 (permalink)
ASH Getting Comfy Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 145	I use the supplied hood, but then I didn't know there was another hood.

01-02-2006, 19:02	#10 (permalink)
digitalfailure Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: on the floor Posts: 694	Your right about the model of hood to use and your right again about it being a heck of a lot of money for a piece of plastic. I don't have an account at the online auction site you mentioned, and i don't want to pay 2x the cost in a uk shop What I do need though is a hood that works on this lens, I suffered some terrible flare problems at the weekend which have ruined some otherwise stunning images.

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