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Old 26-02-2015, 16:25   #1 (permalink)
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LaForet: Dedicated Cameras are Coming to an End for all but PROS

I am sharing this on every photo forum I am a member of as we are either working or hobbyist photographer who have probably bought a mirrorless/SLR camera. I find it a fun topic to talk about, assuming you aren't selling these still cameras.

Vincent LaForet was the first to promote the coming of HD video onto SLRs making his thoughts on the ongoing decline of still cameras have weight.

Without further adieu read this blog post below.

Prediction: The Age of the Standalone Still Camera is Coming to an End for all but PROS Vincent Laforet's Blog

Note to Vincent: Get someone to proof read for you.

This video below expounds LaForet's thoughts with some rounded numbers

http://youtu.be/bfCJDIf-NeA

Here are some more precise numbers to supplement the blog and video.

http://lensvid.com/wp-content/upload...00-ver-2-0.jpg

Source: LensVid Exclusive: What Happened to the Photography Industry in 2013? - LensVid.comLensVid.com

Production, Shipment of Digital Still Cameras in 2014

42.8 million - still cameras covering point & shoots, mirrorless and SLRs
- 29.28 million point & shoots
- 3.17 million mirrorless
- 10.32 million SLRs

Production, Shipment of Digital Still Cameras in 2013

61.0 million - still cameras covering point & shoots, mirrorless and SLRs
- 44.19 million point & shoots
- 3.18 million mirrorless
- 13.64 million SLRs

Production, Shipment of Interchangeable Lenses in 2014

22.3 million lenses covering crop & full frame
- 5.7 million full frame lenses
- 16.6 million crop lenses

Production, Shipment of Interchangeable Lenses in 2013

25.88 million22.3 million lenses covering crop & full frame
- 6.01 million full frame lenses
- 19.87 million crop lenses

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1.3 billion smartphones shipped in 2014

Of which 1 billion are Android and 193 million are iPhones

Makes me wish I used all the money I spent on Canon & Apple gear went into Apple stock at $7.00/share in 2002.

What makes the smartphone market so big is that a sizeable chunk of smartphone users are on contract so they get upgraded phones every 12, 24 or 36 months. These upgrades are "pushed" on them rather than us working/hobbyist photographers "pulling" these upgrades with our still cameras.

I also think just like the PC shipping figures still cameras are either abandoned in favor of smartphones/tablets or upgraded based on need (the subject they're photographing needs XYZ feature or the camera broken down and isn't worth repairing).

Less than 1% of those buying a still camera of any sort buys a SLR. The 1% of the 1% of SLR buyers buys a double grip pro body like a Canon 1D X or Nikon D4S.

It puts into perspective where/who we are today. Doesn't it?

With this in mind do you find yourself thinking perhaps the next upgrade you will skip all together?
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Re: LaForet: Dedicated Cameras are Coming to an End for all but PROS

Oddly this does not surprise or concern me too much. When I started photography as a hobby few people had SLR cameras (or med/large format). These people were enthusiast and professionals and many were members of Camera Clubs. Since the digital age, it is true that many (most people) take photographs of their holidays, friends, family etc. and probably do not need DSLR cameras even though many bought them. The folks who join camera clubs are still the enthusiasts and membership did drop but is now back up to the previous peak of the mid-1980's. Many have DSLR's but some have bridge, compact and even phones with most having more than one of these. They are generally keen on producing good images to please themselves, competitions etc. So little has changes other than the equipment they use. It is the output that matters not the equipment. Now a significant drop in production of DSLR's will put the price up so we may find that photography as a serious hobby could revert back to those who can afford it. However, I do not think that this will happen as Camera Clubs (that I know) do not specify the equipment used so those without DSLR's (and similar) will not be excluded. Also predictions of the future are not always wrong but usually take longer than expected.
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Well until someone invents a mobile phone that will emulate an SLR camera I don't think Canon and Nikon will be going out of business just yet.
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Re: LaForet: Dedicated Cameras are Coming to an End for all but PROS

Actual shipments in 2014
Forecasted shipments for 2015


CIPA2015Forecast by alabang, on Flickr

Point & shoots is the most affected in drop in sales.

Interchangeable lenses and bodies the least affected.

People on photo forums will still buy dedicated still cameras.

People who dont will probably use what they have until it is too expensive to fix or just get a new smartphone.
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Re: LaForet: Dedicated Cameras are Coming to an End for all but PROS

I think maybe it is the point & shoot = compacts that are being replaced by the smartphone from observation, and this seems to back it up.

Can't see me moving to a phone.
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Re: LaForet: Dedicated Cameras are Coming to an End for all but PROS

I haven't studied the figures in detail - just glanced through them, but does anyone know if the drop isn't simply a matter of market saturation and not bothering to spend 500-1000 per annum just to keep up? If new users of cameras are new users because they're using one in their phones, they may see no need to buy in (literally) to a much more expensive market when the results (for them) are no better?

Cameras are amazingly cheap now compared to the 1960s; but a phone (if you're going to have one) is the cheapest way of owning a digital camera now.

Personally, I'll still be using a camera as long as film is made (unless there is an unforeseen change in digital) and I have the strength and dexterity to do so.
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