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Old 17-03-2009, 14:33   #1 (permalink)
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I am looking to buy another Lens for my 400d and would like some advice I only have the Lens that came with camera so far and would appreciate some help as to what to buy next .
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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

Two questions. What lens came with your camera, and what are your top three photographic interests in order?

There have been several similar threads on this subject, so you might find some answers that suit you in them too.
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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

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It came with the Kit lens 18-55 .
I like mostly to take pictures of our Dogs and Rabbits and also Pictures of the surrounding countryside
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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

I think something like a Sigma or Tamron 18-200 will fit your needs. Dearer would be the Sigma 18-250 / Tamron 18-270, but they do offer a greater range.

Further down the line if you find you are doing one particular area of photography more than any other and the lens you have is not suitable, you can get a more specialist lens to cover that requirement.
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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

Hi there Mary
How is it going?
If you are taking pictures of your dogs and rabbits then I think your kit lens should be good enough depending on how you want to shoot them.
If you are photographing them relatively close then the 18-55 should be enough reach for you.
For local landscapes the 18mm of your kit lens offers you width that a longer lens can you give you.
However, if you are in the market for some new toys here are my recommendations:

1) For your dogs and rabbits get an EF 50mm f1.8II and/or an (EF 85mm f1.8 / EF 135mm 2.0L USM)
These are all prime lenses and will give you nice images of your pets. But in all honesty so will your kit lens on a nice overcasted day. For your rabbit I would suggest you consider using reflectors rather than getting a new lens.
2) For landscape get the EF-S 10-22mm f3.5-4.5 USM
3) For an all around good for everything but not FANTASIC at anything type of lens get the EFS 18-200mm f3.5-5.6 IS or any other zoom lens covering this range made by any of the other companies. For me personally, 18mm is a good width for landscape. It is not ideal but for a general purpose landscape, 18mm is not bad at all.
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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

I think perhaps another thing should be mentioned, what is your budget, how much are you prepared to spend cos this can be a expensive hobby once the bug bites. The Sigma 70-300mm f4-5.6 APO Macro Super DG Lens is also a super lens, you can pick one up for around 155 quid or less if you shop around.

I used to have this lens and was delighted with it at the time. Theres a topic here on Pixalo Shots for reference - Lens example photos, comparison images and sample shots that has lots of pics taken with various lenses inckuding the ones suggested above, have a browse through it might give you a idea of what you want.

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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

A great suggestion Chilliman.........but in the end don't you also sometimes find that these so called KIT LENS aren't really all that bad? They can do a pretty good job with a good 75% of the shots out there and they are cheap. The cheapest lens I ever had was a second hand 50mm f1.8 AF and it is one of my best lens and certainly my favorite.
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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

I'm using the kit lens 17-85 for some of my pics that came with my 40D, it's a bloomin good lens too. I had a Tamron 24-75 and couldn't really see any difference between the two. I kept the 17-85 because of the IS and gave my son the Tamron.
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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

I agree with Chilliman,

Iv'e got the Canon 17-85 which at nearly 5:1 zoom range I find a very good all round lens..The wide angle end of the lens will give you good coverage of the countryside shots and the 85mm end should be adequate for your pets.With the 400d you have enough "pixels" to crop the photo and this will give you a further "enlargment" of your shot.

Go into a camera shop with your 400D camera and ask to try various lenses to see if the one I have suggested has enough range for your requirements.

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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

Yup I agree with you brian. I looked at your gallery and man you have some nice pics. Great composition and really at the end of the day composition is more important than lenses and most kit lens is good enough to allow most beginner to intermediate artist/hobbist to create great pictures. Pros are so good that they don't NEED better/expensive lenses but they do purchase better/more expensive lenses cause THEY CAN AFFORD IT- LOL
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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

Hi All
Thanks for the Advice I forgot to mention I want to do a bit of wildlife as well ,Hey Dookie its not just one Rabbit its 70 of um LOL .
I am trying to do website at the moment but I want to get the Photo's right we are going to make like, oh I dont know how to explain but here goes we are going to get 4 pieces of MDF so that you have Floor Back and 2 sides ,we need to cover it with Material that will show up all colours of the rabbits we have Whites Greys Sables and smokes Blacks and Sables which are the colour of the Dark points on Siamese cats
Any thoughts will be welcome .
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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

Clarificaion please Mary:
You have 70 rabbits - NICE! Now are you photographing all 70 of them at the SAME TIME in the SAME SHOT or are you photographing them one at a time, a couple at a time, a few at a time?

No matter which way you do it, the lens has little to do with what you need. It is the quality of light you are after here. White background is not a bad idea if you must do this indoors (outdoor presents so much more possibilities). I assume your MDF are white in colour? Drap some white clothes/drapes to add some texture would be nice and the rest is really trying to get good light on the subjects as well as reflecting off the boards. It is the quality or actually the right amount of light that will reveal the details not so much just the lens.

Once again I would need more information before I can suggest anything else.
So tell us:
How many rabbits per shot
What is your space like where you will be shooting
What type of lights will you have available
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This sounds fun!
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Hi Dookie
Not doing all at once LOL ,what they do at shows is with the boards ,so they put Said Rabbit in Like box with no top or Front got me ? I have no special lighting but my dining room is huge with loads of Natural Light ,as you say outside would be better perhaps I should try that still with the Box for Background
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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

Mary this is what I suggest:
Place the box with "said rabbbit" on the table and bring the table close to a large source of natural light.
Shoot with your back towards the light source on a tripod as such that you will not be blocking the light.
Using your 18-55 try to shoot at around the 35mm-55mm range with a shutter speed of 1/100th or faster and post us some pics and we can go from there.
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Ok Guys
I have been looking at Lenses on Ebay can someone please tell me the difference Between the 70-300 and the 75-300
Sorry if I'm getting on ya nerves now
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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

One has IS the other one don't. One cost more (the IS 70-300) and the other less. IS is good to have for alot of reasons so if it is in your budget I would opt for IS.
IS = Image Stablization
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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

If you haven't already made your purchase have a look at the Canon 55-250mm. It's a great lens not too expensive and doesn't leave you with any gap in focal length. You'll have 18mm through to 250mm covered.

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I have been looking at Lenses on Ebay can someone please tell me the difference Between the 70-300 and the 75-300
Sorry if I'm getting on ya nerves now
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The 75-300 is also not thought to be as good as the 70-300 either, regardless of the IS.
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Decided to go for Sigma 70-300
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Decided to go for Sigma 70-300
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Mary get the APO version of the Sigma 70-300. My daughter has the non APO version on the Sigma 70-300mm which I have used and I don't think much of it, especially the sharpness at the 250-300mm end of its range. The APO version I have used is so much better all round I have found. The price for the APO version is about 40 -50 more but its more than worth it.
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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

I used to have the APO version before I went down the L route(Skint now) Anyways a wee tip if your handholding the Sigma 70-300 APO etc try to keep the shutter speed if possible equal to or faster than the focal length to help avoid any camera shake, if your on a tripod then it's not a problem.
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Thanks Guys I will have another look tonight ,Chilliman I love the Skint Now LOL
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Hi Guys
I have just Bid on this Lens but having read it again I have noticed that he says it fits Canon and Nikon is this right has I did'nt think they would fit both .
The item no is 120394381821 could someone have a quick look for me .
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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

The sigma 70-300 APO is indeed available in Nikon and Canon fits, and it could be that the seller has just copied some information from somewhere.

However, the listing also includes this:

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Sigma 70-300mm APO micro auto focus lens,i use this on my nikon D40 thought it is only manual,comes with instructions,lens hood and Hoya skylight filter,sorry no box,only used a few times and produces very sharp pictures,any questions please ask,thanks.
He is saying that it has been used on a Nikon, so I would say the item in question is a nikon fit, unless he has more than one for sale and the other one is a Canon fit.
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Thanks for that I have emailed him and Explained this and told him I would have to withdraw my bid ,I will get this Lens if it kills me
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Re: Lens for Canon 400d

YOU can mount a Nikon mount lens on a Canon body but you will need an adpator and you will be down to manual focus and use it as a manual lens. So therefore, I think your seller is mistaken or don't really know much about what he is selling. Either I strongly suggest people to buy LOCAL for second hand lenses...such that you can SEE the lens for youself to make sure there are no damages, fugus, oil on the blades, and focus correctly with no hot spots and such. Protect yourself
Never let the idea/excitement of buying something over ride your sense of judgement.

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Mary , You may also have a look at the Canon version of the 70-300 mm IS (image stabilising) there are a couple on E-bay ,have a look at this one ,the bid is currenly at 72.The seller is private and has 100% rating

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CANON-EF-70-30...1%7C240%3A1318.


This one is for an APO Sigma.
I would try and bid for the Canon IS version but only bid yuor maximum amount you are prepared to spend and don't get sucked into the last minute bidding frenzy.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sigma-70-300-f...1%7C240%3A1318


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Take care on this one, not sure if it is the real deal or rather its not the DG version. My 70-300 had a red line around the outer body of the lens, mine was Canon, looking on Amazon Click Here the Nikon/Canon one has also got the red line around it. The one in the Ebay pic looks completely different and has a gold line instead of red which makes me think its a older lens. I'd hang on for the real thing instead of having to use adapters to make it fit.
Brian has gave a couple of good links and as he said don't get carried away with the bidding, bearing in mind you can buy a new sigma 70-300 on warehouse express for 125 quid (not incl' postage)
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