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Old 25-02-2009, 19:53   #1 (permalink)
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hello all! I'm wanting to start playing around doing some product shots in a light tent with lighting etc and have a Pentax K20D. I have a Tamron 70-300 lens with Macro and the standard 18-55 Pentax lens which came with the camera. I wonder whether there is a lens which i should be looking at to give me good results for what I'm doing or whether these would be ok to use? I don't have a fortune to spend but I also want to get some great shots... Any help would be greatefully appreciated...

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Re: Lens for Product shots

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here's a couple i did for an engineering company for their brochure. i took about 200 individual items. had the light tent, lighting and flash gun and used a 24-70mm f2.8. Still did a few tweaks with PS after mind.





The images ended up reduced dramatically in size, but they were happy with them.
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hey they look great Damot! When you said they ended up reduced dramatically in size, what do you mean?
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This size!



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here's a couple i did for an engineering company for their brochure.
If you don't mind me asking - how do you come to do things like this? Do you offer, are you asked, how do they find out about you?
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I was lucky in a sense. A friend of mine who knew I was into photography happened to be talking to the wife of the guy who owns the company. How the conversation started I will never know. But I got a phone call!!!
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Ah.... I see :-)

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If you don't mind me asking - how do you come to do things like this? Do you offer, are you asked, how do they find out about you?
I run a design/web/print business and find the best way is to send out some samples and then get on the blower to see if there's any interest... :-)
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I was lucky in a sense. A friend of mine who knew I was into photography happened to be talking to the wife of the guy who owns the company. How the conversation started I will never know. But I got a phone call!!!
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Ah.... I see :-)



I run a design/web/print business and find the best way is to send out some samples and then get on the blower to see if there's any interest... :-)
Ah, thank you
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If you want an extra pair of eyes to run over anything just let me know
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Update... I bought a Pentax 35mm macro lens and I love it :-) Practice practice practice now :-) But got my first packshot job so will post something when I have done it.
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If product photography becomes a core part of what you do, then you should look at not only macro lenses but also tilt/shift lenses as well - though I'm not sure what types would be available for your Pentax.
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If you don't mind me asking - how do you come to do things like this? Do you offer, are you asked, how do they find out about you?
You will be suprised how word and mouth is sometimes better that advertising so if you do show pictures to anybody always make sure they are the best you can produce!
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Thank you - what are tilt/shift lenses?

I bought a 35mm macro lens and it's great :-)
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Re: Lens for Product shots

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When I did mine, I had the product in the light tent, with softboxes either side to eliminate shadow, then used the flash mounted on the camera. the flash pointing toward the roof of the light tent so to spread the light around. you may want to slightly over expose but as you said, practice, practice, practice - just record your settings for each shot so as you make changes each time, you can see the difference it is making.

hope this helps and good luck.

ps, tilt and shift lenses correct perspective if im correct.
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Thank you Damot, i think I need to get the flash out :-)
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You will be suprised how word and mouth is sometimes better that advertising so if you do show pictures to anybody always make sure they are the best you can produce!
Are you saying mine are no good Des?? lol
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Wheelie2 - as you have posted a duplicate post in the Flash and Studio Lighting Equipment, Techniques and Setup forum I've removed it from here to avoid confusion and split replies.
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Thank you, I figured I'd edge my bets as the content changed to another direction. :-)
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Thank you, I figured I'd edge my bets as the content changed to another direction. :-)
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My two cents worth.
For product shots of this kind, it is not just the lens. The lens has to be sharp no doubt, but most lenses sitting on a tripod and using a release cable can give you decent to very good sharpness at around f4-f8. What makes a product shot "good" is the lighting. With products like these, you want no shadows or shadows that can easily be "tossed" in PS. Colour, reflections, details are all controlled by light and light modifiers. You want that "pop" in these shots and that "pop" comes from creative lighting and not the lens.
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With products like these, you want no shadows or shadows that can easily be "tossed" in PS. Colour, reflections, details are all controlled by light and light modifiers. You want that "pop" in these shots and that "pop" comes from creative lighting and not the lens.
When you say "tossed in PS" do you cut round the product or do you magic wand or is there a more reliable and quicker way of sorting the background out? I think I'm trying to get the background as white as possible with lighting when I should probably be doing that in PS? Or am I talking BS?
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It's always better to get what you want in camera but dealing with creases and grey backgrounds is only a matter of seconds in PS usually.
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Thanks VinnyP - would you completely remove and replace all the background or simply brush over them is PS?
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It depends I'll try and get a mask but often you end up using brushes or cloning. Shadows and reflections are tricky little devils, of course if you just want a straight cut out then it's easier. Since products don't move you can often get better, and cheaper, results with continuous lighting.
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Since products don't move you can often get better, and cheaper, results with continuous lighting.
Very true VinnyP, I use continuous lighting, its easier to control the end result.
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