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Old 25-01-2009, 11:25   #1 (permalink)
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Lenses for wildlife photography

I'm thinking of hiring a lens for going away on holiday with, so that I can take some photos of wildlife/birds etc. I'm a first timer so would appreciate some advice on which lens would be best.
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Old 25-01-2009, 11:43   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Lenses for wildlife photography

Depends where you're going, what you'll be doing and what camera system you use, i.e. Canon, Nikon, whatever. For birds and wildlife you're normally talking around the 400mm+ mark, but give more detail and no doubt people will advise.
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Old 25-01-2009, 11:59   #3 (permalink)
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i agree with condyk... need more info.... but anything with a reach of 200mm to 400mm would be your best bet maybe a 70-300 would suffice...
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Old 25-01-2009, 12:46   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Lenses for wildlife photography

This thread might be useful once you have made up your mind on what lens to try.

Also http://www.pixalo.com/community/news...tml#post210394
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Old 25-01-2009, 12:59   #5 (permalink)
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If hiring is an option, and it can be a great option for the big/fast stuff that might only be used 2-3 times a year, then check out here ... highly recommended, personal service and cheapest UK prices, including insurance and a pro quality UV filter to protect the element (essential for African safari and such like dusty trips).
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Old 25-01-2009, 14:02   #6 (permalink)
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Thank you so much for your advice. I have a Nikon D80 and the stock lens that comes with it, the 18-135mm.
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Old 25-01-2009, 14:11   #7 (permalink)
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Thank you so much for your advice. I have a Nikon D80 and the stock lens that comes with it, the 18-135mm.
Best bet at a fair price is the excellent 70-300mm VR ... I used it last year on my last Africa trip as support to my 400mm and did a great job. Excellent image stabilisation, decent build, flexible, good IQ through the range. Will do you for closer stuff, but for birds and more distance wildlife you do really need 400mm+.
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Lenses For Hire Ltd. excellent service and prices, I've used them for canon stuff and was delighted with the speedy and friendly service, their doing Nikon as well now. Drop them a email, you'll find them helpful in what you need.

Whoops didnt check condyk's link,

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Old 25-01-2009, 21:08   #9 (permalink)
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I too can recommend Lenses For Hire and as for wildlife, I use a 300mm F/4 IS lens (my preferred) and 100-400mm IS. If I need just that little bit more reach, I use a 1.4x Teleconverter (which loses only 1 stop)
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I would consider whether you would be mobile and have to carry it or if a tripod is practical. If a tripod is practical and you're stationary a large prime is perfect. If you have to carry and shoot freehand, a 70-300 might be just the thing. I use a 70-300 and 50-500 and like both. I'd really like a big prime lens, but so far won't spend the money required.

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Old 26-01-2009, 10:41   #11 (permalink)
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Yeah, as this is my first shot at doing anything remotely adventurous rather than indoor stills I don't want to go out and buy anything just yet. I think hiring might be a nice option. And I probably won't be taking my tripod so I'll opt for the 70 - 300. Thanks for all your advice. Bring on the holiday!!
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Old 26-01-2009, 11:13   #12 (permalink)
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If I were hiring a lens and if it was for small birds it would have to be 500mm or a 300mm 2.8 and a 2x converter, but if you were sitting in a hide all day it may be a different choice!
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If it was me i would go for a 600mmF4 or 400mmF2.8 and 2x
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Old 26-01-2009, 19:05   #14 (permalink)
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If it was me i would go for a 600mmF4 or 400mmF2.8 and 2x
Yeah ... and the key data we're missing here is available budget. My assumptions have been limited budget but may not be the case.
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Thats the problem with shooting wildlife it's not cheap and smaller the subject the longer you need, i have a 300mmF2.8 and 2x and that is not long enough for small birds
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<cough> May I respectfully draw your attention to this little advert....

http://www.pixalo.com/community/phot...usm-29672.html

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<cough> May I respectfully draw your attention to this little advert....

http://www.pixalo.com/community/phot...usm-29672.html

LOL! Good choice! Anyone who thinks you need more than that setup (300mm + 1.4TC) for small birds should check what I've done with the same. All full frame, no crop (other than aspect as I hate cropping in!) http://www.pixalo.com/community/phot...now-23358.html

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Sorry I did not think about budgets I just thought everybody was rich on here! Of course you can do wildlife with a standard lens if you wish but its hard work, I have done a few robins on a bridge camera in the back garden but the birds are very tame and they come really close, so the answer is hire a longish Sigma lens but it would still have to be 300mm or more.
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I'd take a look at the 70-300mm Nikkor lens. The VR function is a bit crazy - the whole lens vibrates - but it takes lovely clear shots, doesn't weigh too much, and has a good focal length for the sort of thing you're after. Considering it's a Nikkor, it's not outrageously priced either and about £280 if you shop around (assuming you're UK-based).

See if you can have a go with one in a shop or something and see what you think.
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I have a 70-300mm VR its a good lens and cheap enough if you shop around but after doing Australia and a month in India I still think its a little short for some subjects, I dont do a lot of wildlfe but if its around when I am about then I will have a go at it, next time I am traveling I shall pack a 400mm but thats about my limit!
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The 70-300 vr is good enough for wildlife, but not good enough for birds. I've had a few shoots with the lens and most of them come out blurred when shooting something moving fast.
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Budgets are a bit of an issue for me actually. However, I will definitely be having a look around for a 300mm lens when i get back from holiday if I find I get on okay with the one I might be able to borrow from a friend. I have also been tentatively offered a 400mm too which I am majorly excited about.

I take it a tripod will be a necessity for this trip?
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I take it a tripod will be a necessity for this trip?
Probably better off with a monopod. Also you could hand hold with care and the correct shutter speed if the light is good enough. i.e - 400mm lens not less than 1/500 sec ideally.
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The 70-300 vr is good enough for wildlife, but not good enough for birds. I've had a few shoots with the lens and most of them come out blurred when shooting something moving fast.
But that is not the fault of the lens. You just have to practice your technique more.

These were taken with a Canon EF 100-400mm f4.5-5.6 L IS USM Lens. I'm sure I would have got very similar resutls with a Nikon 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 G AF-S VR IF-ED Lens





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The 70-300 vr is good enough for wildlife, but not good enough for birds. I've had a few shoots with the lens and most of them come out blurred when shooting something moving fast.
Yeah, VR won't help you with motion in the subject. You're better switching it off and stick it on a monopod - if needs be you can up the ISO to get the shutter speed you need, tho' depends on the body as some will do higher ISO cleaner than others.

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Budgets are a bit of an issue for me actually. However, I will definitely be having a look around for a 300mm lens when i get back from holiday if I find I get on okay with the one I might be able to borrow from a friend. I have also been tentatively offered a 400mm too which I am majorly excited about.

I take it a tripod will be a necessity for this trip?
If walking around without VR then a monopod, if static most of the time then a tripod, if on a bean bag shooting from a vehicle then neither.
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