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Old 04-11-2009, 13:39   #1 (permalink)
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Macro lens for use with Canon 5D

Simple really

If cost and make didn't matter which macro lens would you recommend for use on a full frame Canon 5D?
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Old 04-11-2009, 14:47   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Macro lens for use with Canon 5D

Canon 100mm or Sigma 150mm. I've tried the Sigma with the 5DII and it works a treat, but it's rather heavy/bulky so the Canon would be better if you didn't need the reach.
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Old 04-11-2009, 14:55   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Macro lens for use with Canon 5D

Looking at the Canon line up they have just introduced a 100mm F2.8 L macro at around the £1000 mark. It is incorporating their latest IS system with three settings and while initial reviews seem very positive I am having problems to justify the extra cost over the 'old version', especially since the L lens is made from plastic and not metal like most of the others.

People who have compared the two seem to think that the difference in image quality is not worth the cost and that you are paying mainly for the new IS and the 'L' branding...
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Re: Macro lens for use with Canon 5D

That sounds expensive! Why do you need all three IS settings on a macro lens? Ideally you'd have it on a tripod anyway.
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Re: Macro lens for use with Canon 5D

The existing Canon 100mm macro is an excellent lens. Can't comment on the newer version, seems expensive mind.
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Old 04-11-2009, 20:44   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Macro lens for use with Canon 5D

I use:

Sigma 105mm - image quality is on a par with Sigma 150mm/Canon 100mm/Tamron 90mm, does not have USM (which is why I often prefer it over the 150mm - faster MF). Has extending barrel which some claim scares the bugs - I've never found it a problem. Build quality is so-so

Sigma 150mm - USM AF, tripod collar for rapid landscape/portrait change (it's main virtue for me), internal focussing - no barrel extending, better "standoff" from subject (so won't scare bugs so easily - I've never found this to be particularly true and we're only talking a couple of inches anyway). Build quality pretty good.

I've used:

Canon 100mm - internal focussing and USM (see above), no lens hood supplied (an essential for me as I walk through grass/undergrowth - keeps bits off lens glass). Build quality pretty good.

I've never used:
Cannon 100mm IS. Sounds pretty good but at macro end it will only give 2 stops

Personally, I'd love the new Cannon IS but it just doesn't give sufficient additional advantage for the price

I definitely wouldn't swap my Sigma 105mm for the "old" Canon 100mm - not just because the Canon is so much more expensive
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Re: Macro lens for use with Canon 5D

Thanks for the feedback. I've been doing some reading and the general opinions are that you can't go much wrong with the Canon 100mm macro or either of the two sigma's you have mentioned (depending on length).

There seems to be a fairly big crowd of people who also recommend the Canon 135 f2 L and extension tubes, benefits seem to be the speed, the really quick and accurate focusing speed, the ability to use it with a 1.4x converter and still have a fast lens and obviously it would also make a wonderful potrait lens on a full frame camera. Lastly it is supposed to have wonderful bokeh too. I guess the drawback is that its not a true macro lens
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Re: Macro lens for use with Canon 5D

I have the Canon 100mm macro and absolutely love it. I think like you Steve that I would struggle to justify the extra money for the L series one. The USM version has for a few years now been reviewed as having the same sharpness as L glass and it is hard to imagine the L series lens being any sharper. The IS might help I guess as there are very definitely times when a tripod is not practical so being able to hand hold (and focus by moving your body as is common) with the benefit of IS would be good. I couldn't justify it for my own work though.

I tried the Sigma 105mm before I bought the Canon but I wasn't quite as impressed as I found it a bit soft towards the edges, especially at wide apertures.

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Thanks for your feedback Rob, much appreciated
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Re: Macro lens for use with Canon 5D

I've no experience in Macro myself but as your using the full frame Canon 5D I'd be inclined to go for a longer lens to give you that extra bit of working distance, just a thought.
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I've no experience in Macro myself but as your using the full frame Canon 5D I'd be inclined to go for a longer lens to give you that extra bit of working distance, just a thought.
I've had the Canon 100mm macro for a few years and it's a cracking lens. I have also used it for lower light sports stuff and the usm is generally quick enough with servo tracking.

I've not used one but as Sonsey says, a longer focal length would be a good idea with FF and the Canon 180L would be a good choice. MPB photographic have a 2nd hand one listed at the mo but it's still expensive.

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I've not used one but as Sonsey says, a longer focal length would be a good idea with FF and the Canon 180L would be a good choice.
100mm and 180mm:
31cm vs 48cm closest focussing for f/2.8 vs f/3.5

But at least the MPB copy has the tripod collar and lens hood (essential extras IMHO)
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That sounds expensive! Why do you need all three IS settings on a macro lens? Ideally you'd have it on a tripod anyway.
Paul I found a decent review on the lens which goes some way to explaining what Canon's new Hybrid IS system is about.

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 L IS USM Macro Lens Review

Whether it justifies the extra cost or not is still very much open to debate
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Re: Macro lens for use with Canon 5D

Thanks Steve. Yes, it sounds good, but at £1000 I'm not sure.
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Re: Macro lens for use with Canon 5D

£789.99 at RGB, but out of stock at the moment.
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£789.99 at RGB, but out of stock at the moment.
OneStop now show it in stock at £679...must resist temptation

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OneStop now show it in stock at £679...must resist temptation
Nice one!

They must've just put it up as it wasn't onsite at all when I checked.




















p.s. it's £666.39 now
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Well, did you?
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No, not yet. I am not as impulsive as Dave and want to make sure this is the right thing for my needs
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