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Old 28-12-2013, 12:26   #1 (permalink)
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I'll ask here for a start but I imagine with no disrespect that there are other more knowledgable places to ask basically after having a D4 for a few months I'm thinking of investing in a microphone for its video capabilities which I'm still getting to grips with I've read that the dedicated nikon microphone isn't that good and there are better the built in microphone is about as much use as a yoghurt pot and a piece of string and picks up all the noises from the camera
I've been advised by a well known nikon London outlet where I bought the D4 actually said that there were better than Nikon and recommended Rode microphones which also have a hot shoe mount just wondering if anyone else has one and what they think of it also anyone recommend any video editing software The Rode microphones don't seem to badly priced either from a quick google
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I would get the mic off the camera as far as possible. As opposed to video cameras where a lot of the noise is controlled the Nikons especially make all sorts of clicks while recording. (Broadcasters have a person holding the mic but it is cumbersome for the amateur ).

Worst of all is the aperture control motor that is impossible to keep quiet. You need a manual (or AF-D) lens with an aperture ring detent spring removed so that it glides smoothly between stops (see How to De-Click Nikon 105mm f2.5 Ai-s lens Safely for Videography using Felt - YouTube). If the D4 is like the D800 you need to set an anonymous lens in the "Non-CPU Lens Data". If you have set-up a manual lens then the aperture motor chases the aperture ring at whatever setting you have for "aperture" steps - normally 1/3rd stop. i.e. if you move the aperture ring one stop the motor clicks 3 times. There is a video somewhere on the internet, I think it is vimeo, that shows this happening. I believe this is a fault in the firmware that needs fixing as there should be no difference between video mode using a manual lens either mentioned or anonymous in the 'non-cpu list'. With an anonymous lens this doesn't happen.

The other noise maker is the focus, but this is much better on the D800 than it is on the D300s because the D800, and I would imagine the D4, have superior focussing in Live View - the D300s tends to hunt more.

As to a microphone, if you want to mount it on the camera, then I would buy a mount that either clips on the hot shoe or a flash bracket, and can hold the microphone separately, then buy a decent microphone. I have no experience with Rode products, but have used long established reputable names such as Sennheiser when making recordings on to studio equipment. You can usually buy a the bracket along with the microphone as they are made to fix to a stand - often with the same fitting as a camera mount.
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When I was heavily into video I used rode mics and as GS said Sennheiser are also good. The brackets I use have a system that suspends the mic in a rubber cradle to minimise camera noise and a windjammer is also essential as are (in my view) a decent set of headphones so you can manage the sound and keep an ear on the wind noise.

I used Pinnacle Studio and found it easy to use, but (unless it has been corrected in later versions) it had an issue with the timeline counter in clips. I went to Première Elements that was far better in terms of the fine details and I suspect that Premiere Pro would be better just as Photoshop is better than Elements.

I gave it all up as it was such hard work to get a decent movie. I went on holiday to Italy and came back with over 2500 clips to edit and lost the will to live doing the editing. The you find that you are missing a clip or two that you need to link things together Then finding suitable background music is also a nightmare.

As I knew nothing about video I went on a course to learn how to shoot and edit and although the latest software is now far more advanced than I used it is still just hard work compared to presenting a photographic show.
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