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Old 02-11-2013, 15:53   #1 (permalink)

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MONOPODS

I HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING BUYING A MONOPOD.
I HAVE LOOKED AT SEVERAL, GIOTTOS AND MANFROTTO .
I AM LOOKING FOR ONE, EASY TO ADJUST AND WOULD BE USEFUL IF IT HAS THE SPIKE AS WELL AS A RUBBER PAD AT THE BOTTOM, AS I KNOW ALOT OF MONOPODS DO NOT COME WITH A SPIKE.

ALSO IS IT BEST TO GET AN ADJUSTABLE HEAD FOR THEM, OR CAN THEY BE USED WITHOUT, AS THE WEIGHT FACTOR HAS TO BE CONSIDERED, THE HEAVIER THE HEAD, THEN THE WEIGHT OF THE CAMERA AND LENS IS REDUCED, DEPENDING ON THE MAXIMUM WEIGHT THAT THE MONOPOD WILL HOLD.

ANY HELP AND ADVICE MUCH APPRECIATED

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I use a Manfrotto monopod, very easy to use and set up. I don’t bother with a head as I only use it with big lenses and screw the monopod directly into the mounting collar of the lens. If the lens you are using has a mounting collar, then you won’t need a separate head as you will still be able to change axis of the camera. Plus, I think attaching the monopod directly to the lens/camera is more stable. On the other hand if you are attaching the monopod directly to the base of the camera body you will be restricted to a landscape orientation, so in that case a small head would be needed to enable you to rotate the camera to a portrait orientation.
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When buying a lowpro pull along bag from an internet dealers showroom, I tried to squeeze a lower price but he insisted that his prices were already very low he did eventually agree to a small discount if I spent it in the show room there and then. I chose a monopod (mainly to use with my new bridge camera rather than my DSLR). It was one of the cheapest (matching the size of his discount) but he warned me that I would better with the next model up and pay the extra as it was taller but I was reluctant to spend more. He was right so do make sure that you can use at least eye level when stood up.

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THANK YOU, JOHN AND DAVE FOR YOUR REPLIES.
I HAVE SEEN THIS ONE, IT SEEMS TO HAVE A BIT MORE STABILITY THAN A NORMAL MONOPOD, WHICH COULD BE AN ADVANTAGE FOR ME ONLY HAVING ONE ARM.

Manfrotto 682B Self Standing Monopod: Amazon.co.uk: Camera & Photo

YOUR VIEWS ON THIS ONE PLEASE, I KNOW IT WON'T BE AS STABLE AS A TRIPOD, BUT I DON'T ALWAYS WANT TO LUG A TRIPOD AROUND
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Not really the answer you want, but I use a tripod as a monopod as I needed both to take the 500mm - and most definitely need and use the ball joint head - and yes it needs to go high enough as otherwise you'll spend a considerable time bent over

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I HAVE SEEN THIS ONE, IT SEEMS TO HAVE A BIT MORE STABILITY THAN A NORMAL MONOPOD, WHICH COULD BE AN ADVANTAGE FOR ME ONLY HAVING ONE ARM.
Looks good - I'd use a head with it, even if only the minimum size you can get away with (for the weight of camera/lens)
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In your situation Woody I think that the type that have feet will be to your advantage, and locking clips will be easier that the concentric screw ones. I think that most of the main players will list this style of monopods, but consider a carbon fibre one that will be lighter (as will your wallet).

I use a Manfrotto 234RC head that is not only quick release, but can flip from horizontal orientation to vertical easily if you leave the friction screw loose. If you don't you have to loosen it by way of a thumbscrew. I chose to use this one over a conventional head as I don't need to tilt the camera up or down more that I can do by just moving the camera on the monopod. (Another reason to make sure that the camera will be at head height). They are also cheap!
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THANK YOU MARK
THAK YOU GRAHAM.

GRAHAM, I HAVE LOOKED AT SOME CARBON FIBRE ONES, BUT AS YOU SAY, THEY CERTAINLY ARE NOT CHEAP.

I WILL HAVE A LOOK AT THE MANFROTTO HEAD THAT YOU HAVE SUGGESTED.

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AT THE MOMENT, I HAVE A Manfrotto 475B Pro Geared Tripod AND A MANFROTTO 405 PRO GEARED HEAD, SO YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW DIFFICULT THIS COMBINATION IS TO CARRY AROUND.

ALSO, IT IS BECOMING MORE DIFFICULT TO USE TRIPODS IN A LOT OF PLACES NOW.

SO THIS IS WHY I THINK THE SOLUTION IS A MONOPOD


GRAHAM, THE MANFROTTO 234RC HEAD LOOKS A VERY BIG POSSIBILITY, THE ONLY PROBLEM I CAN SEE IS HOLDING MY CAMERA, WHILE TURNING THE LOCKING KNOB
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Yes it could be. That's why I mentioned that you can set it to be a little on the loose side so you could overcome the friction with a bit of pressure. Manfrotto dealers usually have a selection of heads on a demo stand, so if you can get to one you could give it a try.
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GRAHAM, I AM SORRY, I MUST HAVE MISREAD YOUR EARLIER POST, ABOUT LEAVING THE SCREW SLIGHTLY LOOSE, I UNDERSTAND NOW, I HAVE RE READ YOUR POST.

THANK YOU, THAT DOES MAKE SENSE AND HOPEFULLY WILL WORK FOR ME.
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HOPEFULLY WILL WORK FOR ME.
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I THINK THIS ONE WOULD WORK, BUT A LOT DEARER.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Manfrotto-32...+joystick+head
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I THINK THIS ONE WOULD WORK, BUT A LOT DEARER.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Manfrotto-32...+joystick+head
They have gone up a lot since they came out. It might work with a monopod, but I rejected it for use with a tripod as it restricts you to go to portrait orientation in one direction only as it hits the legs. This would not apply to a monopod. Again, you will find them on the Manfrotto demo stand. They also do a similar one that is vertical, but I think that if you go down to 90 degrees with it, it puts the camera a long way from the tripod/monopod and it would affect the stability.
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Woody, I don't know how cumbersome you will tolerate the various options, but beyond the normal monopods there is the Manfrotto 685B which is pricier than the rest but allows you to operate the height adjustment using a combination of you feet and hand. It does not use clips. The disadvantage is that is does have a foot - I'll come to that later.

I often find that a monopod gives me support rather than the absolute stability of a tripod and therefore I do not expect too much from it. In that respect I use is as an aid to hand shooting, generally with longer lenses. As John points out using longer lenses often mean you have a colloar on the lens allowing you to rotate the camera setup without getting any lopsided balance, which is what you will get with any head attached to the camera when working in portrait mode.

Graham points out correctly that the pistol grip releases, although very nice and fast, do put the camera futher away from the top of the monopod and exaggerate the lopsided effect when tilted to portrait. Fine for a long lens maybe, but can be difficult to line up to miss the bottom of the camera. I would try to use one of these before jumping in and buying one. However, the price you have seen is for the larger model. There is a smaller one that will generally do for a monopod if you decide to go that direction.

The 234 head is useful for more stability than a ball head but has the limitation that you have to decide beforehand if you are going to need to use the camera in pitch (up and down) or in roll mode (landscape to portrait) as it only has 1 axis. (2 if you include the ability to rotate the monopod)

A monopod without a head limits you to a very small angle of use for distant shots before the weight of the camera becomes difficult to manage - i.e. you end up with creeping under the camera or stepping over the monopod when trying to pitch it.

In your situation I'm not sure how you will create the 'triangular' stability to keep things manageable.

My own solution is different from the above - always a maverick.

I use a 296RC ball head, which allows me to pitch and roll. It has friction control that tends to prevent the camera slipping away sideways but gives me enough movement to enable the camera to be moved away from a single line of axis. My monopod would not be suitable for you as is uses twistlocks that need 2 hands.

The perfect universal head for a monopod that keeps the weight over the monopod when rotating the camera does not seem to exist.

Coming back to the 685B. It is easy but like many monopods or tripods it has to be able to comfortably come up to your height. A solution that I use is some circumstances to create a triangle of stability it to stuff the foot into an old film cassette fastened to my belt - rather like a flag bearer's holster. While this is not ideal I can use the setup with one hand quite successfully, and it is easy to move from one spot to another without a monopod dangling off the bottom of your camera. The disadvantage raised earlier is that the 685 will need a different solution.


Sorry for the drawn out post but I have been searching long and hard for a suitable solution. The main reason being that many mid telephoto Nikon lenses do not come with a rotating collar. OK on a tripod but pretty impossible when swinging the weight over to one side on a monpod.
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I'm interested in this. Been thinking of getting a monopod myself to reduce the weight, I don't like carrying my tripod very far a the moment due to my neck and its weight. I manage the camera due to the black rapid that I got from Woody as that takes the strain.

I can see how the bottom feet might help Woody, but are there any out there that have a spike to prod into the ground. I think some of my use would benefit from this as the ground may not be flat where I might use it. Also plonk and shoot for some bird shots would be helpful. And wondered if it would also double as a walking stick. Any recommendations ?
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GRAHAM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, YOUR HELP AND ADVICE IS VERY HELPFUL AND NOT DRAWN OUT AT ALL, BUT YOU HAVE ADVISED ME ABOUT THINGS I WOULD NOT HAVE THOUGHT OF.

MY MAIN PROBLEM, WITH FINDING A SET UP THAT WILL SUIT ME IS, THE NEAREST CAMERA SHOP TO ME, IS 22MILES AWAY, HAVE NOT GOT A LOCAL ONE, SO I ORDER MOST THINGS I NEED FROM AMAZON AND IF THEY DON'T SUIT THEN I AM ABLE TO SEND THEM BACK WITHOUT A PROBLEM.

YOUR ADVISE HAS CERTAINLY GIVEN A LOT TO THINK ABOUT.

I REALLY LIKE THE STANDARD BEARERS IDEA, THAT IS BRILLIANT.

I THINK THIS WILL BE TRIAL AND ERROR, UNTIL I HOPEFULLY GET SOMETHING THAT WILL WORK FOR ME.

MANY THANKS GRAHAM, MUCH APPRECIATED
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CHRIS, FROM WHAT I HAVE SEEN SO FAR, FOR MANFROTTO MONOPODS, YOU HAVE TO BUY THE SPIKE SEPARATELY, THEY ARE ABOUT £10.
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Thanks for the info Woody. I will probably get a manfrotto one as then I assume I can use my existing tripod heads if required. Or can you mix heads with other brands ?
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CHRIS, I WOULD THINK YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO USE ANY MAKE OF HEAD, AS I THINK THE THREAD SIZES ARE ALL THE SAME, SO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE TRIPOD HEADS THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE.
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I can see how the bottom feet might help Woody, but are there any out there that have a spike to prod into the ground. I think some of my use would benefit from this as the ground may not be flat where I might use it. Also plonk and shoot for some bird shots would be helpful. And wondered if it would also double as a walking stick. Any recommendations ?
My old Velbon UP-4000 has a rubber foot that screws in to reveal a spike - albeit it does not protrude that much. There must be other makes that have this too. You can buy adaptor threads for converting a head/tri/monopod to/from 1/4" thread to 3/8".

There are a few monopod/walking poles around. 7 Day Shop sell them and they have a spike, a snow disc and a rubber foot!

7dayshop Monopod - Duo Trek Multi-Purpose Anti-Shock Walking Pole with Accessories - Photo & Video Supplies - 7DAYSHOP.COM

Only potential snag would be that there will only be a screw thread to attach the camera, and it you attach a QR head the pole will no longer be able to revert to a pole without removing the head. This might not be an issue though - especially as they are currently £4.49!!!!
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My old Velbon UP-4000 has a rubber foot that screws in to reveal a spike - albeit it does not protrude that much. There must be other makes that have this too. You can buy adaptor threads for converting a head/tri/monopod to/from 1/4" thread to 3/8".

There are a few monopod/walking poles around. 7 Day Shop sell them and they have a spike, a snow disc and a rubber foot!

7dayshop Monopod - Duo Trek Multi-Purpose Anti-Shock Walking Pole with Accessories - Photo & Video Supplies - 7DAYSHOP.COM

Only potential snag would be that there will only be a screw thread to attach the camera, and it you attach a QR head the pole will no longer be able to revert to a pole without removing the head. This might not be an issue though - especially as they are currently £4.49!!!!

That sounds quite good - might be worth a go at that price. Looks to be same as this one on amazon. Although reading some of the reviews, I wonder about it supporting my 300mm and take your point about the need for putting a QR plate on. I'm not sure I'd want to screw the lens on each time. That may make it inconvenient.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hama-Alpenpo.../dp/B002DOUXSA


Also seen this Manfrotto one.

Amazon.com: Manfrotto MMC3-01 Compact 5 Section Aluminum Monopod for Cameras (Black): Electronics


Also there's something that looks v.similar to the 7 day shop thingy, from pole manufacturer Leki, I think it may have same release issues though, and is more expensive.
http://www.amazon.com/Photo-Carbon-S...pr_product_top

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I note a potential solution to the 7 day shop one for telephoto

7dayshop Monopod and Tripod Accessory - V Mount Bracket / Lens - For Telephoto Lenses - Tripods & Supports - Photo & Video Supplies - 7DAYSHOP.COM

I am getting v.tempted to try this out...Where do you get the adapter screws from ?

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I am getting v.tempted to try this out...Where do you get the adapter screws from ?
The last ones I bought I got in Jessops! You should be able to get them pretty much anywhere though. They come in a pack of two - or at least mine did.
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Thanks Graham - Well I've decided to give one a try. I ordered one with some batteries that I was needing, so no extra postage fee as I would of had to pay that anyway.

I'll let you know what I find. If its rubbish then it's only a few pounds wasted.

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Yes please! Could be the bargain of the century.
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NOT A PROBLEM AT ALL CHRIS, I HOPE YOU HAVE GOT ONE SORTED OUT
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Well I got the 7 day shop one through today. I am most surprised with it. I expected to be putting it directly in the bin...

It looks really good, and appears much to be much the same as my walking pole in construction (and possibly make "aftershock"). The V clamp fits on directly without the need for adapter thread.

Yet to use it, hopefully will try it this weekend for a proper field test. I'll let you know how that goes.
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Well I got the 7 day shop one through today. I am most surprised with it. I expected to be putting it directly in the bin...

It looks really good, and appears much to be much the same as my walking pole in construction (and possibly make "aftershock"). The V clamp fits on directly without the need for adapter thread.

Yet to use it, hopefully will try it this weekend for a proper field test. I'll let you know how that goes.
Sounds like a result!
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SOUNDS LIKE A WORTHWHILE PURCHASE CHRIS, HOPE IT WORKS WELL FOR YOU
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Note this one has a foot brace and a simple head - with spike.

This is a monopod not a monopod treking stick like I got.

7dayshop Monopod - Pro Quality Aluminium 4 Section (H180cm) Photo and Camcorder Use with Shoulder Case - 7DAYSHOP.COM

Now £6.99 from £29.99

Reviews look good.
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