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Old 29-03-2018, 12:41   #1 (permalink)
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After shooting exclusively with Nikon in my digital journey, a few weeks ago I bought a Fuji XT-1 to give me a smaller, lighter carry anywhere, anytime camera. I know I'm not the first to tread this path but my Wife gave me an opportunity that I could not resist.

She is unaware that I have upgraded my Nikon cameras from the D70s I bought in early 2006 to a D300 at Easter 2008, then a D700 in March 2010 to a D810 at the end of 2014. I've still got them too other than the D70s that I traded in for the D810 when Nikon offered 400 for any working camera in PX for an 810. "You ought to get a smaller camera" she said when I was lugging some kit around. I had been looking at the CSC systems and decided that for me it was between Olympus and Fuji. I then found an XT-1 in mint condition and only 7500 clicks and after some swift negotiations, I paid juist 375 for it! Bargain, or what?

I had been using my D300 as a travel camera, but it is now 10 years old and although in great condition and giving me good results, by the time you add a couple of lenses and odds and ends, the package is not a lot less bulky than the FF kit although it is lighter. Arguably, the XT-1 is a better camera too with the rate of advances in the camera world.

All I needed now was a lens! As this is not going to replace my Nikon kit I had decided to get the Fuji XF 18-55 kit lens and then later the XF 55-200 and leave it at that. Fuji make superb lenses but the expense and weight of their f2.8 XF range will actually detract from my original plan.

As I could not wait until I could afford the XF 55-200, I bought an XC 50-230 for 145 to give me a longer reach right now. Yes it is slow and made from plastic, but the optics are good and it is soooooo light......

I got the 50-230 before the 18-55 so my first shots were with this lens and here are a couple taken in my garden as of course when you buy any new kit the weather always turns bad for ages.



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Turned out well Graham, are you shooting jpeg or raw, if so what are you using to convert from raw to tiff /jpeg?
I tried the silky pix that came with mine but couldn't get on with it.
I found the difference in weight was amazing, the camera, grip and 3 lenses weighed the same as my D5 Mk3 and 2 lenses.
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I always shoot RAW Charles. Using Lightroom to do the conversions and as yet, not done the interim tiif and PS route as the pictures I've taken are not needing any further editing.

These 2 were at f6.7, 230mm (FF equivalent 345mm!) at 1/140 ISO 1600. I said that the weather was grim.

In my spending spree I also picked up a mint battery grip for 50 and a mint extended grip (MHG-XT) for another 50 and an eyecup and LCD protector and a lens hood for the 50-230. Could not source a Fuji one, they are like chicken's teeth, so just got a generic rubber one.

I got the XF 18-55 from One Stop Digital for 275 - a 'white box' one that had been split from the cameara that was a kit.

I'll add a few more pictures to this thread to show the journey I made playing with it to get used to it.
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After what seemed like an eternity I got a reasonable morning with some watery sun and only a little haze, so went down the road to a local spot - Bison Hill near Whipsnade Zoo. Again, all with the cheapo 50-230 lens.

The originals are tack sharp, but there has been some losses in the downsizing.





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The lenses are great in the Fuji system, I too find less to edit / enhance with the Fuji, my Canons always oversaturate reds and need "taming".
You are obviously enjoying the camera so a job well done.
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Finally in this thread here are some images taken with the 18-55 kit lens. Light was pretty flat for these.







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Getting nice results from the new lens. Looks sharp enough for me not to bother with the other more expensive ones. At least I now know who to blame for the weather!
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It does make me think of changing my camera gear for something lighter and easier to carry around, especially me being mostly interested in wildlife, I see 99% more wildlife when travelling around without my camera gear because it's too bulky and heavy, and put that down to Sods Law
The canon 100/400 lens that I use for wildlife is heavier enough without the rest of the gear. so I only tend to take that out with me when I go to solely look for wildlife when walking, lots of photographers head for the reserves and sit in the specially built hides with there tripods, which I admit is the best place to be to see and photograph them, unfortunately that's not for me as I like to keep on the move
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Getting nice results from the new lens. Looks sharp enough for me not to bother with the other more expensive ones. At least I now know who to blame for the weather!
Yes Chris - the Fuji 18-55 is supposed to be the best kit lens out there, but it comes at a price. UK prices are around 400, a lot more than the Nikon and Cannon kit 18-55s. This is probably due to the all metal construction as well as the really good optics. Their pro f2.8 lenses are really good, but are bigger and heavier and much dearer too, so reduce the advantages of the smaller and lighter system which defeats the object for my intended use.
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It does make me think of changing my camera gear for something lighter and easier to carry around, especially me being mostly interested in wildlife, I see 99% more wildlife when travelling around without my camera gear because it's too bulky and heavy, and put that down to Sods Law
The canon 100/400 lens that I use for wildlife is heavier enough without the rest of the gear. so I only tend to take that out with me when I go to solely look for wildlife when walking, lots of photographers head for the reserves and sit in the specially built hides with there tripods, which I admit is the best place to be to see and photograph them, unfortunately that's not for me as I like to keep on the move
At my camera club we regularly have a renowned wildlife photographer down and he is a Nikon shooter and has been for a very long time. He has recently trialled the Tamron 150-600 G2 and has compared the results against his favoured 500mm F4 Nikon lens which cost him arounf 8500.

His results have led him to sell the Nikkor lens!! Yes, if you pixel peep the Nikkor has the edge, but the difference in the overall image quality is negligable and the Tamron is much lighter to boot.

At the same time Olympus gave him a pro kit comprising of the OM-D EM-1 mk2, a 300mm f4 and some other lenses including the 60mm f2.8 and a 1.4x TC. This was primarily to test the in camera focus stacking, something that he has been doing for a long time with his Nikon kit, but manually.

After three months they wanted the kit back, so he bought his own kit!! He said it is horses for courses and the Oly kit will not replace his Nikon kit, but complements it very well. He has got fantastic hand held results and he pictures the Nikon kit with the 500mm and the Oly with the 300mm and the difference in physical size was enormous. He has the whole kit in a vrey small bag. The body, the 300mm, a 60mm macro a 1.4 TC is all he needs.

He does not have a web site. All of his images are handled by an agency, but if you Google Andy sands you will probably get some of his images.
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It does make me think of changing my camera gear for something lighter and easier to carry around, especially me being mostly interested in wildlife, I see 99% more wildlife when travelling around without my camera gear because it's too bulky and heavy, and put that down to Sods Law
The canon 100/400 lens that I use for wildlife is heavier enough without the rest of the gear. so I only tend to take that out with me when I go to solely look for wildlife when walking, lots of photographers head for the reserves and sit in the specially built hides with there tripods, which I admit is the best place to be to see and photograph them, unfortunately that's not for me as I like to keep on the move
I walk around a lot too. Well I did till last week and an injury to leg!

If going not to far I can manage to walk around with the 500mm and Camera. Usually without a pod and hand hold it.

However for longer walks - I take my 300mm and 1.4 and 2x convertors. My brother uses the newer 100-400mm with 1.4 TC and a 7D and gets nice results again just hand held. Btw I don't think it is just you that the wildlife disappear from with camera. Seems pointing a lens at them can make them move more quickly than just walking along.

He switched from the Olympus OM-D mkII (with 50-500mm Sigma) to Canon as the Olympus and lens did not autofocus very well - may well of been the lens. He still uses the Olympus for macro and landscapes tho.
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At my camera club we regularly have a renowned wildlife photographer down and he is a Nikon shooter and has been for a very long time. He has recently trialled the Tamron 150-600 G2 and has compared the results against his favoured 500mm F4 Nikon lens which cost him arounf 8500.

His results have led him to sell the Nikkor lens!! Yes, if you pixel peep the Nikkor has the edge, but the difference in the overall image quality is negligable and the Tamron is much lighter to boot.

At the same time Olympus gave him a pro kit comprising of the OM-D EM-1 mk2, a 300mm f4 and some other lenses including the 60mm f2.8 and a 1.4x TC. This was primarily to test the in camera focus stacking, something that he has been doing for a long time with his Nikon kit, but manually.

After three months they wanted the kit back, so he bought his own kit!! He said it is horses for courses and the Oly kit will not replace his Nikon kit, but complements it very well. He has got fantastic hand held results and he pictures the Nikon kit with the 500mm and the Oly with the 300mm and the difference in physical size was enormous. He has the whole kit in a vrey small bag. The body, the 300mm, a 60mm macro a 1.4 TC is all he needs.

He does not have a web site. All of his images are handled by an agency, but if you Google Andy sands you will probably get some of his images.

Strangely enough, it was only recently that I was reading the reviews and the comparisons on the Tamron 150-600 G2 and the Sigma 150-600 Sport.
I have also been looking at Andy sands's work on the web that you mentioned in your post, very impressive work indeed.
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I walk around a lot too. Well I did till last week and an injury to leg!

If going not to far I can manage to walk around with the 500mm and Camera. Usually without a pod and hand hold it.

However for longer walks - I take my 300mm and 1.4 and 2x convertors. My brother uses the newer 100-400mm with 1.4 TC and a 7D and gets nice results again just hand held. Btw I don't think it is just you that the wildlife disappear from with camera. Seems pointing a lens at them can make them move more quickly than just walking along.

He switched from the Olympus OM-D mkII (with 50-500mm Sigma) to Canon as the Olympus and lens did not autofocus very well - may well of been the lens. He still uses the Olympus for macro and landscapes tho.

It's not long ago since I upgraded from the 550D to the 760D after viewing someone's work that was being posted on here at Pixalo who were using the 760D, and the quality of the shots being posted was great, so I decided to go for the 760D.

My original intention was to go for the 7DII but I kept reading negative reviews from many of the buyers especially about the complicated focus system and the not so good ISO reviews that were posted by many, also many bad posts regarding people that thought they had bought a bad copy of the camera and were returning them to Canon, in fact, I nearly cut my losses and changed to Nikon.

It's only since retirement that I have been using a camera so I am not very technically proficient in there use, hence me turning tail before buying the 7DII after reading the negative reports especially about the complicated focus system,
I do however still keep considering the 7DII until I see the high ISO that Nikon are capable of without spoiling the shot.
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I went over from a Canon 5d2 and 1D3 to Fuji kit last year, originally a Fuji XT-1 and 18-55. Since then I traded in my complete Canon kit for two XT-2's an XF55-200, and an XF100-400 with 1.4 teleconverter kit.

I absolutely love the smaller kit and the results are fantastic.

Recently in the Lakes I was watching an aeroplane cross the daylight moon, I grabbed my 100-400 setup and got a number of great shots as the plane crossed the moon hand held at 400mm. They were surprisingly sharp.

No way would I go back to my heavy Canon kit now.

There are some downsides with crossing over like lack of choice in flashes and triggers etc, but with the huge increase in mirrorless and the fact that Fuji do actually listen to their customers I do think thats just a matter of time.
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Very interesting Chris. any chance of showing some of the pics?
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Will have to re read the rules 1st @dabhand16

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Will get some posted this weekend.
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GRAHAM, YOU MADE A VERY GOOD CHOICE, IN BUYING AN XT-1, I CERTAINLY DONT THINK YOU WILL BE DISAPPOINTED.

UNFORTUNATELY, I HAD TO SELL MY XT-1 , SOME TIME AGO NOW. AS MUCH AS I LIKED IT, THE IDEA OF HAVING A SMALLER, LIGHTER KIT, DID NOT WORK FOR ME.

I FOUND THE CAMERA TO AWKWARD TO USE WITH MY LEFT HAND, AS THE CAMERA BODY BEING VERY SMALL AND LENSES, BEING QUITE HEAVY MADE IT NOT THE RIGHT BALANCE FOR ME.

I HAVE A D700, D3s AND RECENTLY BOUGHT A PANASONIC LUMIX FZ2500, WHICH IS ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.
ALTHOUGH THE D700 AND D3s ARE LARGER CAMERAS, I DO FIND THEM EASIER TO USE WITH ONE HAND AND THE BALANCE IS MUCH BETTER, I NORMALLY USE A 2.8 24-70, OR 70-200 F4, I FIND THE D3s AMAZING IN LOW LIGHT HAND HELD .

BEST OF LUCK WITH YOUR XT-1, YOU HAVE PRODUCED SOME GOOD RESULTS WITH IT SO FAR
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You certianly have a good selection of cameras there Woody.

Like you, i also prefer the bigger cameras. The XT-1 is only intended for a lightweight system that is easier to take anywhere, anytime but I do find it a bit fiddly in use.
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GRAHAM, THAT IS UNFORTUNATELY THE PROBLEM WITH THEM, THE SIZE, THEY ARE VERY FIDDLY AND I DIDNT FIND IT VERY WELL BALANCED.

IF ONLY THEY HAD MADE THE BODY LARGER, WOULD HAVE BE IDEAL, EVEN WITH THE VERTICAL GRIP, I STILL FOUND IT TO SMALL AND AWKWARD.

I DID, ON MANY OCCASIONS, TURN IT UPSIDE DOWN AND USED THE VERTICAL GRIP SHUTTER RELEASE BUTTON, BUT I THEN THOUGHT THAT IT COULD BE DOING DAMAGE TO THE CAMERA, BY USING IT UPSIDE DOWN
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I bought the bigger hand grip (not a battery grip) - the MHG-XT - and it offers a better experience for me. New they are expensive, but you can get third party ones at very reasonable cost. mine is a mint used Fuji one, cost 50, still a lot more than the third party ones, but they all have an L shape to give the Acra Swiss mount on the base and one side, but that added a bit more bulk and weight so I preferred the Fuji one.

Don't think using it inverted would damage it.
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I TYPE USING CAPITALS DUE TO A DISABILTY

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Graham, i also bought the large grip, which as you say was expensive, i think about 150, if i remember rightly, but this grip did not work for me either, in fact, i found it worse than the vertical grip, as it did not have as much depth as the vertical grip.
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