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Old 18-12-2008, 00:57   #1 (permalink)
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New lens for a beginner!

I've just bought a Canon 1000D with kit lens and loving it at the moment, first step into photography so I'm having fun with it!
I wa just wondering what was the next lens that you bought and why? Do most people either go down the macro or telephoto or is it good to get something like a 50mm lens first to have a play with?

Just asking as I wanted to know whats a good 2nd lens to get to allow me to take a wider variety of photos and I have seen a few 50mm f1.8 going for around 50 and wondered if they worth a buy or is the IQ a step up but variety of photos I can take a step-down. Would it be best to keep the kit lens alongside the 50mm or are they very similar, and if I wanted to go the macro route, a 50mm + macro lens would be better than the kit lens and macro.

Is the kit lens + 50mm combo something a lot of you have done or would consider and why?

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Old 18-12-2008, 01:51   #2 (permalink)
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Re: New lens for a beginner!

Almost everyone has a 50mm f/1.8, because they're very good, and very cheap. They're good for portraits, and 'general' shots, but not really macro. I think you might get pleasure out of a macro lens, most people do, but if macro doesn't interest you then obviously don't bother
The kit lens is worth keeping as a 'walkabout' lens, it offers a fairly wide focal length range in a compact housing, so quite useful until you can afford a more expensive version (17-55 etc)
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Old 18-12-2008, 02:38   #3 (permalink)
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Re: New lens for a beginner!

I caved in and got a 2nd hand Canon 50mm & 2 Canon batteries for 60! Been looking at a lot of 50mm shots and I really like the bokeh and small DOF the photo's have.
I'm not sure whether macro is something that does interest me at the moment, I'd love to get a long range lens in the future for widllife but I'll see how things go with the 50mm!

Just need to get a bag and I'm done for the next few months really, everythings so expensive with photography!!

Forgot to mention in the OP, I haven't read around much on the subject of filters, but are there any types that are recommended if I'm going to be doing 99% of my shots outdoors and contending with sunlight, or lack of in this country!
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Re: New lens for a beginner!

If you'd like to try true macro on the cheap, a set of extension tubes will go well with the 50mm lens and there is no reduction in quality as the tubes have no glass. You'll probably have to focus manually - perhaps by moving the camera backwards and forwards - and the distance from the subject will be very short, but otherwise it's a good alternative to an expensive macro lens.

Some people use a UV filter for protection but this is rather controversial as it can introduce flare. If you do get one, gert a multicoated one such as Hoya HMC or Pro1.

Polarisers are popular to reduce reflections and darken a blue sky, but the effect can be overdone. To me the most useful filters are graduated neutral density (ND grad) which reduce the brightness of a grey or cloudy sky so you can expose for the foreground without blowing the sky. The Cokin P system has several to choose from, and you can use the same filters with different lenses by swapping the adapter rings.

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Re: New lens for a beginner!

The second lens that I bought was the 17-85 IS lens. This is a good general purpose lens that will allow you to take slightly wider angle shots than the kit lens and closer up shots as well. The IS makes quite a difference as well.

I bought a 50mm shortly after as well though
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Re: New lens for a beginner!

I've got a 400D my 2nd lens was the Canon 55-250mm then I got the Sigma 10-20mm and now Sigma 28-70 for portraits. I don't have the 50mm.

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Re: New lens for a beginner!

When I had my 400D, I spent a year using it with the Kit EF-S 18-55 lens. As I got bored with the limitation from the kit lens I looked into different sort of best value lenses. I ended up buying a Canon 50mm f/1.8 for taking shots in low light conditions and a Sigma 70-300mm Macro tele lens for taking sport pictures. About 6 months ago I bought a Sigma 10-20mm and this is the best lens I've ever owned!! It's fantastic, fun and does produce extremely high quality shots!! Well you can also do great shots with the other 2 lens I mentioned but this wide-angle lens is just too easy to get brilliant shots!! I'd recommend it to anyone who can afford it!!

Depending on your interest (type of photos you like to take) get the best value lens to start with and I believe you will never get disappointed!!
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Re: New lens for a beginner!

Thanks for all the comments and advice!
I got my 50mm F1.8 today and I love it so far, just been playing around with it in the house and got some photos uploaded on my Flickr. Its like an early Christmas for me!

Is the Sigma 70-300mm worth 50 second hand
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Re: New lens for a beginner!

If it's the APO version, yes!!!
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Re: New lens for a beginner!

I asked and he confirmed it is "Sigma APO 70-300mm F4-5.6 DG MACRO "

No box unfortunately but its about 1 year old in mint condition.
Is it wrong that I'd have 3 lenses in such a short space of time or is it better to get using a nice range?
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Re: New lens for a beginner!

No, it's great (and it wont stop either!)

I'd go for that, great price as long as it is indeed in good condition. I've got it, use it less than I should, but every time I do get reminded of how much I like it


EDIT: And also, those lenses make up quite a nice range, that doesn't really overlap too much (just about the right amount but with a bit of a gap higher up).
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Re: New lens for a beginner!

Thanks
I'm the type of person that buys something then sells it if I don't use it anyway, I just didn't want to get loads of equipment then realise Im missing knowledge on how to use it all properly and its wasted!
Yeah that's what I was thinking about the range, got a nice bag now to I'd be able to take them all out no problem!
Reading through "Understanding Exposure" will help though!

Bah its getting expensive already !!
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Re: New lens for a beginner!

Well re the learning part, that's what we're here for! And anyway, the lenses aren't really the hard part (zoom in....zoom out...change aperture...), you'll get to 'know' them and what they'd be good for.
Hope you realise you will not have any money every again.
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Re: New lens for a beginner!

I don't have money anyway!!! I keep spending it on things like a mac pro, wacom, dell 24". The list is endless for the electronics I own lol This just adds to the ridiculousness(great word that!)
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Re: New lens for a beginner!

One of my favourite words that is. Glad someone else uses it. Magniloquence, that is.
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Re: New lens for a beginner!

I am a Nikon shooter but for me my eventual dream would be to sell all of my zoom lenses and get the following primes
10mm, 20mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm, 135mm, 200mm and 300mm.
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I am a Nikon shooter but for me my eventual dream would be to sell all of my zoom lenses and get the following primes
10mm, 20mm, 35mm, 50mm, 85mm, 135mm, 200mm and 300mm.
Had the 20 and it's a stinker. I haven't heard of the 10mm otherwise that's a lovely retro set up.
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I am surprised to hear that the 20mm is a stinker. That is one of the next lenses I am saving up for. I was tossing between the 20, the 24 or maybe the 28. I heard good things about the 20 and the 24 and not so great about some copies of the 28 but am surprised to hear you said the 20 is not very good. The 10 is actually a 10.5mm fisheye. Not really sure how wide I want to go for fisheye yet anyways so that one is down the road.
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