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Old 21-02-2006, 23:18   #1 (permalink)
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New Tripod

After finally doing the right thing and really researching the market before I jumped for a change, I've bought a tripod I might actually want to take somewhere with me. It's a CF Gitzo Explorer, an absolutely stonking bit of kit and really adaptable to all situations. I've gone for a simple ball head with quick release plate to keep weight to a minimum. All up it's under 5lbs.

It's cost a horrendous amount of moolah, and I have to say the aluminium version would be a steal for a lot less money and very little weight difference.

The CF looks good though.
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Old 21-02-2006, 23:21   #2 (permalink)
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this is a photography forum you know...

I can't be bothered searching so TTIUWP!
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Haha. I worked that out .... eventually.

I haven't taken any pics, but there's a good review with pics HERE.
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looks a nice piece of kit, but expensive.

We need a TTIUWP smiley
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Very nice, which one have you bought?

I have the Gitzo CF 2228 Explorer. Got it from 0ne stop digital for £263. costs over £400 over here. Work of art
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That's the one. 4 section legs rather than 3.
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Yeah its the three section of mine. I bought mine after that review you've just linked funny enough
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'Work of art' Good description. The Italians do some things so well, they have this thing called 'flare' You can see it in the cars. Trouble is they do the engine and the beautiful body, then lose interest in the finishing off and the door handles come off in your hand.
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Tell you one thing i've noticed, from time to time, at least with mine. A random twist lock will jam. If your hands are clammy for any reason i need a cloth to unfix them, and i've got big Irish hands lol

Watch your hands with the top snap locks! Christ i paid the price when i caught my finger in it as part of an experiment to see if it would hurt.

The experience taught me, that to next time use next doors cats tale for any further experiments (joking)
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I've been looking casually for a tripod and narrowed it down to either gitzo or manfrotto CF ones, for lightweight and compactability. I forget the lie up but there are some 'mountaineer' types that seem quite light yet load up to around 8kg - not that I have anything that massive, yet! but I do have the 100-400 and currently pondering the 1dmkIIN so what ever I go for a sturdy support yet lightweight is something quite desirable. this 2227 is stable with your 1d..N then?
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I was looking at these, but in the end I went for a Manfrotto 055 MF4 I could see that the Gitzo models really offered anything more. They do look damn good tho!
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but I do have the 100-400 and currently pondering the 1dmkIIN so what ever I go for a sturdy support yet lightweight is something quite desirable. this 2227 is stable with your 1d..N then?
I haven't used it in anger yet, but the first thing I did was stick the 1DMK2N on it and and try it out in some pretty extreme positions and on the end of some horizontal centre column configurations. Yes... it's very stable. It has a max recommended load of 22lbs.

I've seen Matt (the mod) using a mahoosive 800mm Sigma on one of these with no problems.
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Looks a nice piece of kit.

I still can't decide which tripod to go for.

I was going to settle for one one of the Velbon Sherpa range.
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I still can't decide which tripod to go for.
That's good! Take your time - think about what you really need in a tripod, look at the market and be absolutely sure before you invest. If you get it right first tme, you'll probably never need to buy another.
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That's good! Take your time - think about what you really need in a tripod, look at the market and be absolutely sure before you invest. If you get it right first tme, you'll probably never need to buy another.
That is the problem.....I already own a Manfrotto 055PRO but want something lighter and more compact.
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I was considering getting the 055pro - do you consider it to be a weighty tripod then ???

TBH I'm hoping to get a feel of a few tripods at the FOCUS show..........
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I was considering getting the 055pro - do you consider it to be a weighty tripod then ???

TBH I'm hoping to get a feel of a few tripods at the FOCUS show..........

i got an 055 pro a few weeks back...
to be honest its a compromise , as a heavier tropod is a more stable tripod, but is less atractive to lug around,

if you compare an 055 to a no name 20 tripod, yes.....its much heavier , but thats what ur buying it for to a certain extent.....as the no name pod will blow over if you fart in the wrong direction,

i went to a camera shop and test drove a few in the shop, and was impressed with the build quality and the steadyness of the manfrotto compared to a few others that were in there, i then decided to go for the best i could afford and got an 055 pro in black with a manfrotto trigger grip head , and am very happy with both

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I was considering getting the 055pro - do you consider it to be a weighty tripod then ???

TBH I'm hoping to get a feel of a few tripods at the FOCUS show..........
For me it is just a little uncomfortable to walk around with........infact I do not take it with me at all.

Lighter/compact is what I am looking for but strong enough to take my 1D MKII.
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i got an 055 pro a few weeks back...
to be honest its a compromise , as a heavier tropod is a more stable tripod, but is less atractive to lug around,

if you compare an 055 to a no name £20 tripod, yes.....its much heavier , but thats what ur buying it for to a certain extent.....as the no name pod will blow over if you fart in the wrong direction,

i went to a camera shop and test drove a few in the shop, and was impressed with the build quality and the steadyness of the manfrotto compared to a few others that were in there, i then decided to go for the best i could afford and got an 055 pro in black with a manfrotto trigger grip head , and am very happy with both

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Hi My Pix

Done the self same thing .... been into Jessops and had a look at the Manfrotto - Agree with you whole-heartedly and bar checking out the like of Gitzo at next weeks show I will probably be sending off for the Manfrotto (Your link to the company in Germany BTW) just had to ask about the weight as to P-E it seams an issue. Can't imagine they weigh that much TBH though.

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See that's the problem. The Manfrotto is ace and will outlast you and your kids. I have one I bought for weddings 20 years ago and it's still as good as the day I bought it. It's not the most adaptable tripod, not as adaptable as an 055, but it's rock solid and easy to erect on the spot with 3 clips. It's a cracking wedding/ studio tripod,and will easily support medium format and larger, but you wouldn't want to hump it around in The Peak District. The perfect tripod probably doesn't exist.
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You can get the weights and specs of all popular tripods off the Warehouse Express site
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Yes... it's very stable. It has a max recommended load of 22lbs.

I've seen Matt (the mod) using a mahoosive 800mm Sigma on one of these with no problems.
ah! whats 22lbs in real money?

good to know either way that it hold one of the biggest bigma-ssive's that exists!
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22lbs = 9.7903214 kilograms.

I might agree with you about the girlfriend thing if 'er indoors wasn't looking over my shoulder.
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So many Gitz to look at

Basalt range look interesting.
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Yes... lovely and lighteight but the max load isn't very much with those. Great for walking/hiking if your kit wont be too heavy, but any long lenses, you'd soon be pushing it a bit. Then there's wind to consider.... prevailing not gastronomic.
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Yes... lovely and lighteight but the max load isn't very much with those. Great for walking/hiking if your kit wont be too heavy, but any long lenses, you'd soon be pushing it a bit. Then there's wind to consider.... prevailing not gastronomic.
The 1298 is rated at 5.5kg max load.......not too bad eh?

Yes I do hiking and wind can be a problem.....prevailing that is
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there is a trade secret to making yo pod a little more stable no matter who made it,
some peeps dont know this, and those that do please bear with me......

all you need do once your pod is set up is to hang your bag over the top of the legs to weigh it down to make it more stable,
the likes of Manfrotto and other brands actually provide a hook underneath for such a purpose...

tho it does help if you have a sterdy pod to start with

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btw, the 055pro weighs in at 2.4kgs and will hold 7kgs all day long, this is from the manfrotto site

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The 1298 is rated at 5.5kg max load.......not too bad eh?
Actually it isn't bad at all - I was over-estimating the weight of the 1DMK2 which is 1.2 kilograms, so it would be a handy tool.
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Actually it isn't bad at all - I was over-estimating the weight of the 1DMK2 which is 1.2 kilograms, so it would be a handy tool.
So looks like the 1DMKII & 24-70 2.8 lens would be within the max load.
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Comfortably I'd think. Get yer plastic out then.
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