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Old 10-08-2010, 19:10   #1 (permalink)
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I don't post here as often as I should, but I thought I'd let anyone who is interested know of my recent experience.

Being a gadget/equipment freak, I could never resist buying that 'bargain lens' on line and soon had quite a collection. But I didn't feel comfortable with (m)any of them. I had some very good Sigma glass - fast, sharp, excellent lenses, but I had so many that when I went out I'd always take the 'wrong ones' - just an excuse for taking crap photos really.

Sooooo... I've just taken all eighteen of my Canon-fit Sigma lenses and traded them in for three Canon 'L' lenses which I hope will be better suited to me and leave me with no excuses for not getting good images. Sod's law, of course, it has rained ever since I got them so I'm stuck taking indoor shots LOL.

Still, when I do get out and about again I'll post some pix for critique or interest and see what comes.
I'm keeping my Sigma SD14 for now - I've got a cracking pair of walk-about lenses for it and I do love the Foveon colours. Under the right conditions, even the 5D Mk II can't touch it. I do have a DP1 now so that may be sufficient to satisfy my Foveon cravings, in which case I'll let the SD14 go.
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Old 10-08-2010, 19:30   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Radical change of equipment strategy

What a change! Almost rivals Dave's switch from Nikon to Canon a while back.

I'm sure you will be happier with your new lenses - and more to the point - they will get regular use.

Now we need to see the results.
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Old 10-08-2010, 20:42   #3 (permalink)
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Sooooo... I've just taken all eighteen of my Canon-fit Sigma lenses
EIGHTEEN...................

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I'm keeping my Sigma SD14 for now - I've got a cracking pair of walk-about lenses for it and I do love the Foveon colours.
Oh my....if Markulous reads that we'll never hear the end of it
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Just read something interesting. Old lenses tended to focus the different wavelengths at different depths in the film layer. Most DSLR's have the different colour sensors on the same plane so the newer "digital Lenses" are intended to correct this so one should get better performance from DSLR with "Digital" Lenses. There is one exception; the Foveon sensor which like film has the different colours at different depths so it has been suggested that you may be better off with the older film lenses.

I have not verified this information but it was written by Martin Evening. However, I suspect the differences are fairly small and may well be correctable in Lightroom anyway.

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Old lenses tended to focus the different wavelengths at different depths in the film layer.
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Very interesting, Dave and yes, the differences would be very subtle, but the best images I got were all with DG coated lenses.

I have to say, though, that the latest image-stabilized lenses for crop sensors from Sigma are very good value. Four stops of stabilization, hyper sonic motor, quiet and sharp wide open. Really good.
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I've been sadly lacking on the landscape front of late, hence the lack of Sigma shots - it's partly laziness on my part as it's easier to go to a site and snap wildlife than going out and about and having to think about utilising the light to get a good landscape!

But result-wise I've not had anything out of the various Canons as good as I've achieved from my Sigmas (landscape and some macros) - tho' dependability-wise the Canons have always won out. Like all tools, use the best one for the purpose required!
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Investment in good glass always pays off. I'd always elect to carry fewer, high quality lenses with as little overlap in focal length as possible.... having a 24-70mm and 70-200mm covers most eventualities for me. I'd love to tack on the 200-400mm as well but at between £4,500 (Mk I) and £6,100 (Mk II), that's some ways off for now
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I have used third party lenses in the very distant past (low cost end) but eventually moved to all Canon with a significant improvement in reliability. I did buy a Sigma 18-35mm aspheric lens many decades ago as it was the first aspheric zoom lens and it performed well. However when I bought my first DSLR it was not compatible which put me off and I reverted to all Canon again. Recently, I needed a new wide angle zoom for a full frame and had to choose between a Canon 16-35mm or Sigma 12-24mm. After much deliberation and advice, I bought the Sigma and used the considerable saving to convert my 20D to Infra Red. Though I am happy with the Sigma generally, it performs poorly for IR. The difference between the Sigma 12-24mm and Canon 24-105mm for IR is huge. I am also glad I hung on the the Canon 10-22mm EF-s which also perfoms well for IR.
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I must say I feel like you wont be sorry :-D
Have fun with the new gear!
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Everyone is very positive about my equipment change. Thanks.

One thing I think worthy of note: The 100mm L IS Macro lens is tack sharp wide open in tungsten light indoors. I can't wait to try it outside.

Thanks again for the encouragement.
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A lot of new users to DSLR's ask what camera is best ,but don't think about the lenses .
It's good to have a new camera,but if we buy GOOD glass it is usually an investment for a lifetime where the camera nowadays will be for around 3 or 4 years.
I for one have bought umpteen lenses which are now stuck in a drawer gathering dust while I use my good couple of lenses.

If asked for lens advice,I would say buy good glass to stand the test of time,and if you are asking "what lens should I buy" which we see all the time in questions, the answer is "wait till you know what lens you need",then buy the makers glass to last..............98% of the time anyway
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If asked for lens advice,I would say buy good glass to stand the test of time,and if you are asking "what lens should I buy" which we see all the time in questions, the answer is "wait till you know what lens you need",then buy the makers glass to last..............98% of the time anyway
Whilst I'd agree in principle, I'd add that I've acquired less than brilliant lenses (lack of funds and lack of ability being the two main reasons) and managed to get some less than shabby shots out of them (Highly Commended and Published). It's just how you use them - ensuring optimal conditions and settings

By the same token we've all seen technically 'perfect' shots using 'good' gear that have absolutely nothing going for them at all!

Yes, I've lenses that don't get used much these days - but I certainly have no regrets about getting them rather than missing a whole bunch of shots - as well as the experience I gained by determining a lens' optimal conditions
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I have uploaded some new images, but I don't yet know how to embed them. I'm sure I've done it before, but I can't seem to do it now.
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OK, I rediscovered how to embed pictures. Markulous is correct about getting good photos from mediocre or even bad equipment. It teaches you mostly when you can't take a picture. With my new equipment I can pretty much always take the shot. Whether it's good or bad is still down to me though :o)

This pair was found in the Wild Life Garden at the Natural History Museum. The lens is a 70-300mm DO IS, the camera a 5D MkII. The depth of field is quite visible because the distance to the sbject is only 1.7 metres.

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Lovely detail in that excellent light......
...... but you clipped the wing!


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...... but you clipped the wing!
Yes, I have clipped the wing! My bad. It is a crop so I can remedy it, I must have uploaded a WIP version :o(
Thanks for the comment, Markulous. Much appreciated.

I know how the wing got clipped. To get my photos down to the Pixalo limit, I used a batch resizer. Going through the options I found I could put a border round them at the same time ... I put a negative figure in for the border size which meant that the border was put inside the photo keeping it the same size but clipping anything that was too close to the edge grrrrr.

I have replaced the photo now.

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