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Old 07-03-2007, 20:11   #1 (permalink)
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Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

Help me decide folks.

Currently find the Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 too short at the max focal length. Ideally want to get 400mm, so I can either try a 2x convertor, lose 2 stops of light & possible slight degradation of image quality , or pay the extra & just go straight for the Nikon AF Nikkor 80-400mm f/4.5-5.6D VR ED Lens ? Seen it for £750 incl P&P from HK with guarenteed no VAT / Import duty.

Now I know I'll lose the constant f/2.8 if the Sigma when not using a telecon, but anything else I should be thinking of
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Old 07-03-2007, 20:13   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

Err do you actually use your camera(s) enough to change lenses
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Old 07-03-2007, 20:18   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

Since when has that ever stopped any photographer
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Old 07-03-2007, 20:23   #4 (permalink)
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Old 07-03-2007, 20:24   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

You could sell both and never miss them
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Old 07-03-2007, 21:08   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

I've always been a little suspicious of lenses with large zoom ratios. 3x used to be the norm, admittedly a long time ago. It's funny how your prejudices stay with you. At 5x this one is on the bigger side, but maybe lens design has moved on.

These days the reviews do not appear to critisize the lenses with the larger zoom ratios, so I have to say I'd rather have the 80-400 than use a converter. If you get VR too there is an added bonus.

Oh, yes, if it is a decider, I'll buy the Sigma from you. You know it makes sense
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Or sell the lot and get a canon
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

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Or sell the lot and get a canon
Believe it or not Ken, I did contemplate switching back to Canon just before I bought the D200, but found the Nikons better to handle for me personally. I think most of us agree there is little between the models, so it's down to personal preference
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

I think you are itching to go for the 80-400 Dave........lens lust is a terrible thing
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Old 08-03-2007, 14:22   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

The last thing I'd want is another interface between the lens and the camera so I'd scrub round the extender, you'd still have a constant aperture, just not the one you want.
If your Sigma is not image stabilised then I can see no reason to favour it over an 80-400.
In fact, the more I think about it, the more I realise it is a bit of a daft question.
You want the lens, you know you are not happy with a lens thats name starts with "S" and you are just hoping someone here will justify the purchase!
Surely what you want is more important than anything else!
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

It seems Soupy has got Dave sussed
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

Did I forget the Big Grin emoticon, oops! silly me!
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

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you are just hoping someone here will justify the purchase!
I've already done that by offering to take the Sigma off his hands.

No excuses left, really.
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

LOL ....first the D200, now peer pressure for the next lens
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LOL ....first the D200, now peer pressure for the next lens
Don't think we will stop there either!
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

So has Dave gone for the 80-400?
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

Look's like he will be...

...he always cave's in these threads
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

Get that wallet open

Just spoke to a pro today who reckons the 80-400 is his best lens and has earnt him 95% of his income................
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

Seriously yes I can be......I looked hard and long at purchasing the 80-400 (when I was Nikon) and it did get some excellent feedback but you already know that.
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

Hmmm, I've thought about that lens in the past but after quite a bit of research the feedback was that whilst the VR was a good feature it was quite slow to focus and tended to hunt a bit.

The Sigma is an excellent lens and coupled with a Sigma converter should not result in a noticeable drop in quality. Dave, have you considered the Nikon 300mm f/4? By all accounts it is a top notch bit of glass for the money and you are only losing 1 stop, just not sure if 300mm would be enough for you. What are you hoping to use it for as that should have a lot of bearing on what you go for.

You should also look at the 300mm f/2.8 AF-S VR, a lot more money but that is the one that is top of my wish list, mate it to a 2x converter and you have a 600mm f/5.6 with VR.

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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

that's got him thinking now Hacker.......nice suggestions though
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

Heh. heh! Sometimes all you have to do is plant the seed.
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

Gits

Re subject for using 80-400mm on, nothing specifically.... just the range & VR makes it very flexible for use

Now I ain't going to the price of that last lens
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

The other alternative is to take up Ninja lessons.
You'll be able to approach your hapless prey without them noticing.
Well it's a double bonus really, you will also be able to walk on rice paper without leaving a mark!
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Yeah, but having to carry that hot cauldron leaves terrible marks on your forearms
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

Sorry to go serious again but, I would be real interested in how the 80-400 is on the D200!
If you go ahead with the purchase? feel free to write a mini review with some pictures for good measure!
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

So after reading lots of reviews it seems the lens produces excellent images, but slow AF Wonder if they have AF-S in the pipeline ....knowing my luck I would buy & the next week a new model would come out

Might see if I can find a rental place to try one out before buying ..... now where's the nearest one to Cheltenham
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Re: Replace Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 for Nikon 80-400mm VR lens ?

Well have to say after looking at many reviews with example shots, I am not that impressed vs the shots I have seen members produce on here with the Canon 100-400mm L glass MMMMmmmm , maybe a good excuse for change of kit
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