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Old 04-10-2005, 11:42   #1 (permalink)
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Rocket Blower

Now I have a dust pump (aka 100-400L) I seem to have more of a problem with sensor debris.

I normally clean using copperhill method but that is over the top for a few specks of light dust.

A Giottos Rocket blower seems the way to go but they come in 3 sizes. The large one looks huge. Does it matter what size it is? Anyone use one?
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Old 04-10-2005, 12:02   #2 (permalink)
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Never used one but was thinking of ordering the medium sized one. Haven't had the bottle to try to clean the sensor and was hoping this would get me out of it
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For lenses I'd say one of those would be excellent but for the sensor, not so good. All you'd really do is blow dust around inside the camera and it will work it's way back on to the sensor, though I suppose for a quick clean out in t'field it would be fine. In which case the smallest one would take up least room in your kit bag.
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Haven't had the bottle to try to clean the sensor
Me neither. I have a couple of slight marks which show up in some pics, but for now I'm just touching them out in processing.

The trouble with blowers and puffer brushes is they blow the dust everywhere inside the camera and tend to just re-arrange it, in particular blowing it up onto the the underside of the focusing screen where it has no effect on your shots, but is very annoying and unsightly. I use a mini vacuum thingy powered by a penlight battery which I've had for years - just have to be careful where you're poking it.
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Said the actress to the... umm
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The best method is to remove the dust not move the dust (ala copperhill). The sensor is charged when in use and thus will attract the dust or any other particles from within the chamber.

It might be a quick fix out in the field to blow the dust around but as CT has said and Marcel has personal experiance of, it can also settle on the focus screen and be so annoying when looking through the viewfinder. A much better choice is to keep it as clean as possible and remove any small amounts of dust at home through correct cleaning and clean up any spots on the pictures during post processing. If you keep the sensor clean, the amount of spots will be very small.
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I have a few specks on my ground glass screen too caused by a cheap unfiltered blower.

I clean my sensor regularly and have no worries about doing it.

One of the attractions of DSLR to me is flexibility. I get to try things I never did with a film SLR - like pinhole lenses...spacer tubes... telescope mounts - all of which expose you to dust problems and don't worry me.

It is an 'in the field' fix I am looking for. If the small one is up to the job then I'll get a small one
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It is an 'in the field' fix I am looking for. If the small one is up to the job then I'll get a small one
If your sensor is clean before you go out then how dirty can it really get on one trip? I used DSLR and have never had to clean my sensor in the field although I have actually done this due to me not having chance to do it under better circumstances.

Would it not be better to deal with speck during post processing, cleaning the sensor at home and if really required, take your cleaning equipment with you and clean in the field under exceptional circumstances. As an experienced sensor cleaner and one who seems confident with the technique, is that really such a big deal?
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I am confident but I set up to do it properly - no point in letting more dust in when you are supposed to be cleaning.

If I have a dust speck that is visible at f8 (as after the last time I had the 100-400 on) I just want to blow it off and get on with using the camera.

I have found the longer dust stays on the sensor the harder it is to get off. Maybe my imagination but I would rather do something easy when I see a problem and move on to doing it properly if the quick fix fails.

I do as little post p as possible. Most of my shots are from the camera jpgs with my preferred settings. I only shoot RAW when in demanding situations... but thats a whole other debate.
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I'm doing my first ever sensor clean (Copperhill) tonight I don't whether to have the brandy before or after.

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First time I cleaned mine (same way) it took 7 goes to get it clean. in the end there was one spot that i had to 'scrub' with the swab to shift it. Single wipe across is the best though.

If your eyes are good and you have the right light you can see most of the particles.

You are cleaning a glass cover not the actual sensor so I hope you are not quite as scared as i was first time
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You are cleaning a glass cover not the actual sensor so I hope you are not quite as scared as i was first time
That's a relief - thanks for that Robert.

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I have the largest Giotto Rocket Blower and I can tell you it has some kick!
The problem is it's so powerful its now in my copier/printer engineers toolkit as its great for cleaning their sensors/components.

I need to buy another one because they do apparently take in a litle contamination and you should always give it a few puffs before you point it into the camera and I don't want my sensor covering in photocopier toner

I've never used the wet method or pad method on my sensor.
My preferred method which works a treat is a good quality NYLON bristled brush with all traces of 'sizing' removed (the substance they use to keep the brush shape before they are sold).
I blow air through the bristles which harmlessly 'charges' the bristles and attracts dust from the sensor to the brush.

I did some home-made tests to prove the charging theory and I could see it picking dust off a piece of black card like a magnet. :icon_cool
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I can understand the logic of that Bachs but what about "stuck" on dust particles.

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