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Old 30-12-2008, 11:37   #1 (permalink)
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Sigma 70-300mm APO vs non-APO

I've read around and most, if not everyone, says that the APO version is better than the non. Why is this? Does anyone have any photographs to compare from the two?

I thought I was getting the APO version today for £55 but it turns out it is the non-APO so I'm looking for some advice whether to keep it as a nice telephoto lens to keep me happy as a beginner (I have a 50mm and 18-55mm) or if I should send it back, get my money back and look for the more expensive APO in the future? It's not something I can afford at the moment as they go for £100ish 2nd hand from what I've seen.

I thought I was getting a bargain, looks like it wasn't as good as I thought!
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Old 30-12-2008, 12:16   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO vs non-APO

i use the NON APO lens and to be honest i,ll use it because i have it, and have not got another lens at this lenth to use, in other words as soon as i can i will get rid of it, that said for the time being i,ll use it and make all the mistakes going and enjoy taking photos
i cant compare the two as i haven,t use the other one but i get satifactory results from it .

This is a shot using the non APO

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Old 30-12-2008, 12:19   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO vs non-APO

Thanks, when you say you're using it until you get rid, isn't that the case with all lenses until you hit the best of the best? or is it one you can't wait to upgrade?
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Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO vs non-APO

Have you used it yet? No point sending it back till you know if the results from it please you or not.

If you get into telephoto photography in a big way, you'll probably be looking at lenses costing £250 upwards so getting a slightly more expensive variant of what you already have, that you'll also replace in the fullness of time doesn't add up in my book.

Again let me stress actually giving what you've got a decent tryout, you never know you might like it
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Old 30-12-2008, 17:33   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO vs non-APO

Yeah Ive only had a chance to use it indoors today, not been outdoors as its ridiculously cold and I'm a wimp at the minute!
I like the range it has, only had upto 55mm prior to this so it will be nice to have something longer. I think telephoto photography is what I will go into in the future if I pursue this new hobby. Macro photography doesn't really interest me at the minute!

One thing I must ask, I was looking at a few shots last night on a range of cameras with different lenses. When looking at them at 100% (5000px wide etc) the images just didn't seem as clear as I thought they would be? Is that just me having higher expectations than cameras produce? I was just thinking you'd be getting crystal clear images on the higher end camears & lenses at 100%. Same goes for the photographs I have been taking, they look great at 50% or around but at 100% they just don't seem as clear as I expected!
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Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO vs non-APO

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i bought this lens as an in- between lens , i know thats sounds daft but i was in the USA at the time and it was cheap. the lens i was really after was the 70/200 L or the 70/300 IS, but couldn't afford them at the time and was impatient. Some say that it's a expensive way to go ..i agree if the the lens you bought was ..say over a couple of hundred pounds but this wasn't. and if i was to wait i would be still waiting for a long lens and not enjoying what i'm enjoying now with this lens.
but the choice is yours, for the money you are going to pay for it ,i don't think its too bad.
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Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO vs non-APO

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One thing I must ask, I was looking at a few shots last night on a range of cameras with different lenses. When looking at them at 100% (5000px wide etc) the images just didn't seem as clear as I thought they would be? Is that just me having higher expectations than cameras produce? I was just thinking you'd be getting crystal clear images on the higher end camears & lenses at 100%. Same goes for the photographs I have been taking, they look great at 50% or around but at 100% they just don't seem as clear as I expected!
The longer the lens, the greater the chance of camera shake. Rough guide for minimum shutter speed for non stabilised lenses is 50mm - 1/75th sec 200mm - 1/250 sec, 300mm - 1/400 sec. I've rounded the shutter speeds up to allow for the crop factor.
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Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO vs non-APO

I've the non-APO lens as, like Bain, I needed a lens in a hurry and, TBH, my photography wasn't up to anything better. Still use it too on my IR-enabled SD10.

I work on the principle that it's better to have the lens and turn in the shots than to not have the lens and miss out on opportunities! Oh, and I've turned in photocall shots, so it must be faintly capable (even if I would tend to recommend the APO version for being much better! )
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Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO vs non-APO

I used to have the sigma 70-300 APO DG and a cracking lens it was too. I wanted the extra reach which is why I got a 100-400. I believe the APO DG version was made with digital cameras in mind, I was happy with it , only problem was I found you really had to make sure you were using a faster shutter speed than the focal length of your shot if using it handheld, using the tripod then that does'nt matter. It produced some freat shots for me. This is a nightshot I took with it, on the tripod of course.

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Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO vs non-APO

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Yeah Ive only had a chance to use it indoors today, not been outdoors as its ridiculously cold and I'm a wimp at the minute!
I like the range it has, only had upto 55mm prior to this so it will be nice to have something longer. I think telephoto photography is what I will go into in the future if I pursue this new hobby. Macro photography doesn't really interest me at the minute!

One thing I must ask, I was looking at a few shots last night on a range of cameras with different lenses. When looking at them at 100% (5000px wide etc) the images just didn't seem as clear as I thought they would be? Is that just me having higher expectations than cameras produce? I was just thinking you'd be getting crystal clear images on the higher end camears & lenses at 100%. Same goes for the photographs I have been taking, they look great at 50% or around but at 100% they just don't seem as clear as I expected!
The photo sharpness is also depending on the focal length you were using with this lens. The best result would be between 70-200mm. Anything beyond 200mm gives softer image. See this example.

Even at 300mm, the photo sharpness is still reasonably good. I shot some swans with my 5D Mark II with this lens a week ago and I did get some good sharpness shots at 300mm.

I am using the APO version so I can't comment on the non-APO image. My experience with this lens has been positive. I never suffer any CA issues under bright day light. Most of the images I shot are terrific so I am pretty happy with it. Despite the slow focus, rotating front unit (during focusing) and no IS capability, this is one of the best value lenses in the market and I would highly recommend it to any photography beginners!!
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Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO vs non-APO

I have the non-APO version of this lens, and I can't get anything useable out of it over 200mm, no matter what I try. Mirror-lockup, remote trigger on a tripod in bright daylight, and it's still no good. Maybe I've got a bad copy.
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Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO vs non-APO

Well the lens, non-APO has cost me £45 and I have been offered an APO version for £85. Tempted to sell my non-APO for £65 and grab the APO for £20 more!
Heres some shots at various focal lengths, not an interesting subject but just to show you the quality of my non-APO.

All shots are ISO400 and are 100% crops







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Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO vs non-APO

dunno if it me but their looking a bit soft to me, as theres no exif data with the pics the settings are not known, having said that they sharpened up nicely in cs 3 after removing some noise.
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You'd definitely get sharper pics with the APO IMO
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Re: Sigma 70-300mm APO vs non-APO

[QUOTE=TomSinclair;249009]I have been offered an APO version for £85.

85 quid for the apo version is a bargain, their still fetching 150 quid...less a penny on Warehouse Express but for a change Jessops is cheaper at 127 quid but thats a sale price. I agree with Jack.

This photo was done with the APO version focal length 300mm, very little sharpening, only pp was to bring the colours up a tad

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See the examples thread for some more, but specifically from the 300mm end:

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