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Old 11-03-2009, 13:28   #1 (permalink)
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Hi! Okay so I bought the camera (Canon 450) and a simple lens (1.8 50mm). It's lovely!!! Took a lot of photos - will share when life is less crazy (no understatement!!! - really!) I even have the battery charger and spare batteries and a bag. (I'm quite a beginner)
I have three SD cards. Great. All full now.
I have managed to (finally) download them onto the computer. Great.

Question - my computer will get very full and if something unpleasant happens to it, heaven forbid, I cannot risk loosing the photos! (posted by mum whose little ones have shorter life than most, blah, blah. - so photos precious!)

What do people do who build up vast amounts of precious photos.
1. Does one buy repeated cards and keep them there?
2. Does one transfer them to CD in which case is that a./ CR-R as you can't wipe them off it, or b./ something else such as a CD-RW for some other reason.
3. Print them all out and store them immediately in albums
4. Something else, potentially high tech - which I probably don't know about....eg on a Hard drive.

Where is safest? Worried if a virus or something else wobbly (ed. not sure what I meant by wobbly exactly?! ) gets into something and is passed across.
How do the various options rank on safety?

Sorry that's probably garbled as I'm working through a long to do list this morning.
Thank you for any help or thoughts offered.
And thank you to anyone who has made this or helps to keep this site going. It has been invaluable and made a great deal possible through knowledgable yet friendly shared ears - for lots of others too I'm sure. I'd best quit before it sounds like an Oscars ceremony!
Much love, Diane

Ah, P.S. CDs - are there makes to go for and/or makes to avoid? Thanks.
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Old 11-03-2009, 14:09   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Storage and safety of photos

There have been many debates here on this subject, and the truth is that there is no 100% safe way of storing your pictures. Because of that, most people spread the risk by some or all of the following methods:

Secondary hard drives in your computer, one or two external hard drives, DVD's or internet storage facilities.

If you do use an external hard drive and/or DVD's it is best to store them off site, as if you put them in a different room to your computer and your house burns down you will still lose the pictures.

Everyone will do something a little differently, but when I download a new card to my computer, I usually burn two DVD's - one to store off site - and the photographs are stored in a second hard drive in my computer which is backed up to an external hard drive.

These recent threads might be of interest

http://www.pixalo.com/community/comp...tml#post255306

http://www.pixalo.com/community/gene...tml#post247987
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As Dabs said, different ways of doing it. My method is to store the originals on a 1 Terabite internal hard drive and to write them to DVD (6 x more space than a CD). If either the hard-drive or the DVDs get corrupted then I'll just make more copies. It's never happened yet but they say DVDs do have a shelf life.

Do not want to sound a geek but 1 Terabite equals 1,000 Gigabites (that is a lot of space). Memory and hard-drives are dirt cheap at the moment. You could put two, 1 TB drives in you PC for £130. Or alternatively buy an external hard-drive and backup to CD/DVD which will leave you with the originals and two back-ups
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Old 11-03-2009, 23:36   #4 (permalink)
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I am a fanatical 'backup' type person!!!! As well as having in my photographs on my main desktop, I also sync with my laptop..... external drive and 'other' computer....... and at a family members house on DVD!

My advice would be to follow Stepheno instructions..... Ebuyer.com are selling 1TB external USB drives for £70....... But I like the DVD approach..... and then stashing them at a family members or friends house.....

Or is that just overkill!!!!
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Old 23-03-2009, 15:38   #5 (permalink)
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Hm. Just written a whole series of questions but it was far too garbled!!
I'll start again more slowly!!

1. Paper. I was very kindly given a little 210g black diamond instant dry photo paper with the loan of the printer. Now I need to get some myself, how does black diamond fare? Is there much to choose between papers? SHould I not be overly worried about which paper? Is there anything I should bear in mind?

2. External hard drives. I wish to purchase two - as will be needing to store increasing amounts of moving images as well as still photos. I feel more comfortable with the idea of External hard drives - rightly or wrongly?!
Does anyone have anything to recommend on this, please? What sort of factors should guide me? I had a suggested price of £60-£80sth each (suggested to me) - is this realistic? Are there brands I'd be better off sticking to, or particular models? This terrain is entirely new to me, so don't feel I have any directional sense on it!! BUt need to crack on none the less (with some haste!) - so need to gain some!

3. CDs or DVDs even. Are there recommended brands to stick to for safety's sake? And CD-R over CD-RW? Is it true I'd best stick to CD-R for achiving? Are there brands to avoid? I need to use the discs also to ferry images to school etc, so thought to get some of both but mostly CD-Rs.
And as an aside, if you write to DVDs does this mean you can play them through DVD players onto the TV? Sorry, if this is a dumb question. It may well be a dumb question, but better to get it out of the way!! Thinking of whether I could send photos of my children to their far away grandmother in a format she could view them other than paper.

4. And the Toshiba SD cards from 7 days.? Am I running a gauntlet with my pictures a little - or is this fine? In the sense of should I be sticking to Sandisk?

I'm sorry to ask so many questions!

Too many questions and too little time!! Necessity doesn't offer any slack for it being new terrain to me and I have much ground to cover! Sorry, hope its okay. Please let me know if it's not!
Thank you for any assistance possible,
Warm wishes, Diane

PS I thought I'd already posted these questions recently, but must have been called away before sending! My apologies if you've already read this elsewhere. I only have lack of sleep to offer as my excuse!

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Re: Storage and safety of photos

Everyone will have their own views on all this, but here are mine for what they're worth...

1. Paper - I like Ilford Galerie Smooth Gloss. From the longevity viewpoint the ink is more important, and you can expect most prints to fade if exposed to sunlight for any length of time.

2. External drives - Seagate drives have (so far) been reliable for me - I have three of them. Maplin are offering a 1TB FreeAgent drive for £89.99 which is a fair price. If you don't need that much capacity, you should be able to get a decent 500GB or 750GB drive for around £60-£70.

3. Others will probably disagree, but I really wouldn't bother with CDs or DVDs. They have nothing like the capacity of an external HD, are much slower to write/read, and there's no guarantee that they won't degrade over time.

4. I've no experience of Toshiba cards, but if you fancy a new one then Sandisk are very good. Buy from a reputable dealer (Amazon is OK) - most of the 'Sandisk' cards on eBay are fakes.

Hope that helps a little!
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Old 23-03-2009, 16:44   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks Silkstone. You mention Maplin are offering Freeagent HD, do you know of a good deal on Seagate....? I'm presuming Freeagent and Seagate are entirely separate entities. Reading recent difficulties with hard drives on here, Seagate seem to be a good name coming up in discusssions. Can but hope!
Cheers, Diane.
Oh, and inks... I'm using Print Aid in a borrowed Epson Stylus R300, though in due course will have to be getting my own and there will come a whole new series of questions!!! Any thoughts? What are the guides as to ink quality? I'm sure there's plenty to be said about printers too!!
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Diane - it's a Seagate FreeAgent.

1TB SeagateĀ® FreeAgentā„¢ External Drive > Maplin
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Western Digital hard drives are also very good. With Hd's it is always a matter of preference.

You can also put your external Hd in one of those fireproof wallets, and still keep it in the same house as your computer, or get a fire proof safe. Check with your local locksmith or any shop that sell safes, for more info.
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