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Old 23-11-2013, 13:22   #1 (permalink)
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That time again

Yep, Christmas is nearly here and there are loads of new cameras etc apearing in the mags. I see that there are now several CSC cameras with full Frame sensors in "C" size or smaller bodies, this started me thinking, If money was no object, (cos someone else was buying it for me) what would my dream present be?
How about a camera with a medium format 40 Mpxl sensor in a frull frame body.
I.E in a Canon 1DX size body and a set of lenses to suit.
Will we ever see such a beast, Canon has stopped it's "studio" camera (1Ds Mk3) and only have the 1DX at the top end and the 5D Mk3 basicaly filling the void, could they be looking at a medium format to fill the space?
Would it be affordable, like the Pentax, or horrendous like a Hasselblad?
Just a thought, (I have them sometimes )
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Old 24-11-2013, 07:46   #2 (permalink)
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doesnt improve your photography any tho if you are not willing to put the effort in to learn it, people with big pockets buy big cameras and think that its gong to make them a photographer lol my ideal present would be another 7D
it is for me the quintessential perfect camera
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Old 24-11-2013, 10:03   #3 (permalink)
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So true, I remember some 30 years ago, in the American Practical Photographer, some one had asked if his photos would be better if he got a "pro" camera.
The answer was " if you take cr** pictures, the pro camera will give you expensive cr** pictures."
Oh for the non PC days.
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Old 24-11-2013, 11:34   #4 (permalink)

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I READ A QUOTE SOMEWHERE RECENTLY, WHICH SAID :-

" BUYING EXPENSIVE CAMERAS DOES NOT MAKE YOU A BETTER PHOTOGRAPHER, IT MAKES YOU A CAMERA BUYER "
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Poor me is still using my about 10 year old Canon EOS 20D 8mp and still going strong. I would like a canon 700D. However I have Canon L lenses which definitely make a difference. I believe it is the lens that makes the image. But I also agree that if you don't have the "Eye" for a picture it does not matter what camera or lens you own you will never get a decent one. A bad workman always blames his tools.
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doesnt improve your photography any tho if you are not willing to put the effort in to learn it, people with big pockets buy big cameras and think that its gong to make them a photographer lol my ideal present would be another 7D
it is for me the quintessential perfect camera
I had a gift of luck hit me in the face and in three seconds I bought my 1DMK4. Helped with the pictures I wanted it for,,,,just enough meg pix and that's all I need. " I am still the same photographer I was. Fooling with all the light I can find. Good point thou,,. I can never see myself buying a camera that costs as much as a house.
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Poor me is still using my about 10 year old Canon EOS 20D 8mp and still going strong. I would like a canon 700D. However I have Canon L lenses which definitely make a difference. I believe it is the lens that makes the image. But I also agree that if you don't have the "Eye" for a picture it does not matter what camera or lens you own you will never get a decent one. A bad workman always blames his tools.
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I still have my EOS 20D though I did have it converted to Infrared a few years ago. I still use it and it is a fine camera. I also upgraded some of my lenses to L standard and did notice at the time a significant improvement which suggests that a good lens may be more important than lots of pixels. But as you say the key is seeing and capturing that picture whatever equipment you use.
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While I agree with all comments, I am suprised that no one took me up on my question, IE would we ever see a medium format sensor in a full frame body, seeing as we can now get full frame sensors in a c size body and c size sensors in a compact body.
I was speculating on whether Canon would be the first as they seem to have gone quiet at the top of the range.
I still have my 1D11n (8 Mp) and still get great images, however if the camera or charger go wrong it will not be repairable by Canon as it's too old. The batteries are also an issue now.
I also have a 1946 Kodak folding camera and a 1940 Zeis Ikon folding camera (35mm 2.8) both have good bellows and they both still take good images.
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While I agree with all comments, I am suprised that no one took me up on my question, IE would we ever see a medium format sensor in a full frame body,
You could say that we are already here. Medium format sensors started at 40MP and the Nikon D800 has a 36MP sensor.

However until the rest of the electronics in the cameras, particularly the processor become a lot more powerful to deal with the files that a larger sensor would produce, which in turn would need better batteries to power them, I don't see this as a viable option anytime soon. While burst mode in a medium format camera of one frame every 1.5 seconds is perfectly acceptable for the use a medium format camera gets it would not be acceptable for most dSLR users.

Then there is the issue of the cost of storing images that could eat up your hard drives very rapidly. A bit like 12 exposures on roll film! Even though HDDs are getting cheaper, 500+mb images would decimate all but the highest capacity.
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If you're thinking in terms of sensor size then no - the lenses wouldn't be any good. But if they design a mirrorless 6x7 sensor into a body no bigger than the current DSLRs then I guess it's possible - the lenses would be a horrendous price though. As Graham says pixel density or image size like that of the top Hasselblad would almost demand computer design dedicated to image processing. The speed that a 70+Mb image is recorded, reworked (lossless compressed) and saved at 5 frames per sec on the D800 astounds me. It is such a small box and no ventilation to cool it. That said, if I scan 35mm negs or slides in at maximum resolution I'm getting >300Mb per image in jpeg. I've not done a high resolution scan from the 6x6 negs.

The current technology is just too clunky and limited, but what's round the corner in a few years / decades once they've harnessed the likes of quantum computing, who knows...
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