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Old 14-02-2009, 10:23   #1 (permalink)
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Too much gear?

I'm embarrassed that I have so much stuff and still get so-so pics. That's one of the reasons why I joined Pixalo, so that I could get some tips and stuff from more experienced photographers.

I suppose I think 'if I get this lens, or that tripod, everything will magically come together and I'll be able to take great pics'. But (of course) it doesn't and I'm not. Am I being too impatient?

I'm aware that I have to 'go out and shoot', but I'm often at a loss to know what to shoot. I like to take photos of wildlife but I get so few 'keepers' (and I have to post-process those) that it is quite discouraging.

Some people will say, no doubt, that my choice of Sigma cameras was a poor one, but I don't think it's the camera. I was talking to one of the guys at the camera club last night, bending his ear about my latest lens, and was astonished to find he didn't have an SLR at all! He takes fantastic shots with a compact point and shoot.

Am I a classic case of 'too much gear, not enough skill'? I'm keen and I want to learn.
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Old 14-02-2009, 10:47   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Too much gear?

You do seem to have a bit of gear!

Great to see another Sigma user (I've the SD10 and still to take as good a shots as I've managed with that), so unsurprisingly I'm unlikely to blame the camera! Having said that, I've found the SD10 to be somewhat quirky and eccentric even if it's capable of turning in superb shots!

So let's see some shots
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Re: Too much gear?

There is no doubt that the camera equipment has absolutely no bearing on the quality of the end result. Some of the best pictures I've seen have been taken with compacts and bridge cameras. Check out Marcin's early macro work that was shot with a Panasonic bridge camera and a Raymo lens attachment. Check out this competition for compact camera pictures.

Looking at you camera gear I see that you have 14 lenses. I doubt that any other member here has anywhere near that quantity. For myself, I'm very happy with my range which comprises a Sigma 10-20, a Nikkor 50mm f1.8, a Nikkor 17-55 f2.8, a Sigma 70-200 f2.8 and a Sigma 1.4x converter. I also have a Nikkor 18-200, but that is for use with my spare D70s body for holiday and lightweight kit use. When I go on holiday I only take the D70s and one lens.

This has made my 18-70 kit lens supplied with my D70s redundant, and my first foray into the world of 18-200 zooms - a Sigma - is waiting for a good home.

So my main kit comprises of four lenses and a teleconverter, and it suits what I want to shoot. Your lens kit has many overlaps and some niche lenses that I'll bet never get put onto the camera. There are also several lenses that will do the same job so I guess that you have difficulty in choosing which ones to take out with you. If you are wondering if you have too much kit, I think that in itself is telling you something.

If you list the sort of photography you are interested in and then rank the subjects in order of most shot to least. Then you will know what lenses will do what you shoot most of. My bet is that you will be able to do whatever you want with no more than six lenses.
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Old 14-02-2009, 11:32   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Too much gear?

Markulous - Good to see another Sigma user. You seem to have a lot of other cameras too. I used to have the SD10 put couldn't resist when the SD14 came out.

Dabhand16 - Some very useful observations. I do like wildlife - I got the 150-500 lens especially for that reason and I have had some success, but I've been out whole days and not got a single, usable shot. I'll have to give some serious thought as to what I really want to do and perhaps sell the lenses I never use.

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Old 14-02-2009, 12:09   #5 (permalink)
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Dabhand16 - Some very useful observations. I do like wildlife - I got the 150-500 lens especially for that reason and I have had some success,
Strike one! Good choice Remember that long telephotos are very tricky to handle. Are you hand-holding or using a monopod? At 500mm with no stabilisation and hand holding you ought to be using at least 1/800 sec shutter speed at the 500mm end. Also stabilisation is of little value when shooting moving subjects.

You have no other lens that will do what this one will - and you are doing the sort of photography that it excells at, so it is one to keep.
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Re: Too much gear?

Sometimes all the equipment just gets in the way of taking the photo.

One of my favourite lenses now is the Tamron 18-270 which covers almost everything. It isn't the sharpest or fastest lens in the world, but that doesn't matter - nobody would know unless they pixel-peeped. Some of my favourite photos have been taken with the simplest kit.
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Old 14-02-2009, 12:27   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Too much gear?

Hmm yes your kit is a bit big I would say.

The way I do it atm is buying lenses and some of them are overlapping. But I'm gonna try them all and then sort out what I need and sell some. Personally, I don't want to have a big range of lenses as this makes me undecisive and I just don't need it.

It is hard to know beforehand if the lens is exactly what you need/want. So go through them all and see which one you definitely need and then try to improve your pictures if need be.
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Re: Too much gear?

I have just 3 lenses carefully chosen to cover everything from 10mm up to 400mm and a teleconvertor that takes me to 560mm.

I doesn't make me take better pictures, in fact I'm learning all the time.

I picked up a 50mm F1.8 last year and have spent time taking just 20 pictures in a session and looking at each and every one and being super critical.

Take baby steps with just one lens, it becomes quite refreshing
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Old 14-02-2009, 13:48   #9 (permalink)

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I TYPE USING CAPITALS DUE TO A DISABILTY

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THAT'S NOT JUST A LOT OF GEAR, THAT'S A WAREHOUSE.

I USE JUST ONE LENS NOW, WHICH IS NIKON 18 - 200MM VR, THIS SERVES ALL MY NEEDS, PLUS SAVES HAVING TO CHANGE LENSES ALL THE TIME.
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Old 14-02-2009, 15:09   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Too much gear?

You'll note that I never said you had too much gear as I could usefully use pretty much every lens you have as it so depends on the subject and circumstances. I tend to use zooms for commission work (as the flexibility edges it over quality) but much prefer primes (for when quality counts but the hit rate is not so important). But I'd probably want a couple more primes at the long end!

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Old 14-02-2009, 15:42   #11 (permalink)
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I have a 18-200mm with stabilisation, but it's F3.5-6.3 and quite often there isn't enough light available to get a decent shot. That's why I have so many F2.8s in my gear. My camera doesn't like high ISOs so I like to keep it down to ISO100. Then there's the problem of shooting F2.8s wide open and getting such a shallow DOF that not all the subject is in focus. Arrrrgh! Stopping down to F8 and more means less light again. Like I said, I'm a beginner and maybe I've not spent enough time on it yet.

I know some of my lenses will be used infrequently, but I've been lucky enough to get some real bargains on ebay so I don't mind them just sitting there waiting for a job to do, but the problem I have is *I* don't know *when* to use them.

My 20-40mm is virtually redundant but it is a fine lens and will make so little on ebay that I'm loath to part with it. I have taken some nice landscape photos with it, but it will also focus down to about 3 inches unlike some of the newer lenses.

I really appreciate all the advice. Especially the 'get to know one lens' piece - thanks Chris H, but thanks everyone. Very helpful.

Dabhand16 - My 150-500 is stabilised and I have successfully hand-held it, but I also have the Manfrotto 393 gimbal head which is also proving useful (with the OS off, of course). Cheers :o)
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Old 15-02-2009, 00:03   #12 (permalink)
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Without reading the other posts, the equipment is nothing but a tool, all you need is a camera and the 18-200 will do, leave the rest at home, go out and practice have a flick through some of the many photo magazines on the market look at the published pictures think to yourself I can do better that that... just go out and do it and yes good pictures can be got with a good compact camera.... just keep your eyes peeled when you go out... someone once said to me good pictures are made with whats between your ears and not whats in your gadget bag! it does not matter how much gear you have thats all part of the game but there is no reason to carry it about all at once, just go out and enjoy! Best of luck.
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Re: Too much gear?

Photography is not so much about what you use to take photos but the skill of the person holding the device.

You say you don't know what to shoot - why not? Leave your house, take your camera and your eyes - there's plenty of photo opportunities everywhere; that new building in town, the old building, a landmark, that outcrop of rocks, or rusty old bolt lying on the floor.

One of my plans for the near future (on a nicer day than we're having! ) is to make "document" my town; something I'd love to do, but will never get chance where I live is candid street photography - like these examples.

Or set yourself a challenge, whenever I go out with my OH to walk our dog I always take my camera - to the same place! Last time I went with him instead of taking my 18 - 105 like I normally do I took my 70 - 300 so I could do something different.
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Thanks a lot Des and Spirited. I'll try and do as you suggest and see what I come up with. The 18-200mm is a very good lens, I should give it more work to do.

Thanks to all for your advice and suggestions. I really appreciate it.
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Re: Too much gear?

I agree with what has been said before. Only the photographer "sees" the good composition.
Grab your slr with a standard zoom, turn off your "auto everything" and shoot, shoot, shoot until you understand the basics thoroughly, then you will know the limits of your auto systems.
To be honest I've seen some terrible images churned out from top quality equipment by people who think they can buy their way into photography but I'm afraid it's a learning process not a buying process
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As you know I'm new to this game too so I can't offer any techy advice but what I can do is show you some wildlife haunts of mine. Send me a PM and we can hook up somewhere. Besides, it'd nice to see again.
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It would, indeed, be good to hook up sometime, Pappa T. I'll PM you soon.
Hi Jake - I shoot a Sigma SD14 which doesn't have 'auto everything'. It has program mode, but that's about it. That's one of the reasons I went for Sigma (I started with the SD10 which didn't even have built-in flash). I think if I wanted to 'buy my way in to photography' I would have started with a Canon 5D and a bunch of 'L' lenses.

I have shot, shot, shot about 8000 images so far and indeed I do 'understand the basics'. The thing is, I'm a techy, and I like all the maths and algorithms and it appears, at first, that if you get all that right you will get good pics. Clearly not the case, as all you old hands know.

My partner takes brilliant photos, but she 'sees' what I do not (sigh).

I'll keep plugging away and enjoy my gear and eventually the scales will fall and I will understand how it all comes together, I hope :o)

I probably do have too much gear and I will, I promise, do the 'one lens' exercise often and try to understand more as I go. Thanks for all the advice.
I do love my equipment, though, and I'm always on the look out for another bargain. Quite incorrigible, I'm afraid.
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From what you are saying I think you would do worse than to study the rules of composition. We all know that rules can be broken, but just following them in the first instance will probably improve your photography massively.

If you post some of your shots you will get good feedback and no one will 'rip you to shreads' either.
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Thanks Dabhand. I have put a few of my 'good' shots in my personal gallery. I don't know how (or whether) to post them here.
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Thanks Dabhand. I have put a few of my 'good' shots in my personal gallery. I don't know how (or whether) to post them here.
Click on one of your pictures to get the full screen image. Below the picture therte are two lines of code. Copy the top line and paste it into a post and job done.
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I moved your picture to the Transport Forum where it will attract more feedback.
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And the post with the EXIF data.
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