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Old 31-07-2009, 05:09   #1 (permalink)
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Video necessary a good thing on new DSLR's?

All this buzz about Pentax, Canon, Nikon ... with video capabilities.
Are we buying into a "trend"? Is this a good gizmo to have? I wouldn't mind paying a bit less and not having to buy the "included video" on new DSLR's series ... what about you?
Just out of curiosity.
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Old 31-07-2009, 06:22   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Video necessary a good thing on new DSLR's?

Personally, if I wanted a video camera I would buy a bespoke video camera.

I have the 5D MKII and I have never used the video function and in fact would not know how to activate it. I would have been far happier to have had the camera cheaper or some extra photographic features added, such as the mirror lock up on a button rather than hidden in the menus.

However, in the never ending race for companies to out feature their competitors I cannot see this stopping and as time goes on, more and more features will be added to cameras that the photographer will not use, but look good when set out in the features list of the camera.

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Old 31-07-2009, 07:51   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Video necessary a good thing on new DSLR's?

It's not for me.
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Old 31-07-2009, 08:31   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Video necessary a good thing on new DSLR's?

I think that the manufactures will move towards a 'universal camera' that will do stills or video with equal quality. This will cut their manufacturing costs as they will not have to make two different camera systems. As the technology moves forward the line between video and stills will become increasingly blurred. The current situation is the thin end of the wedge.
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Old 31-07-2009, 08:42   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Video necessary a good thing on new DSLR's?

I'd rather the effort/resource/money was put into making the resulting photos better than trying to turn me into a cameraman - so, thanks but no thanks
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Old 31-07-2009, 09:47   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Video necessary a good thing on new DSLR's?

Quite agree with all the comments.
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Old 31-07-2009, 10:34   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Video necessary a good thing on new DSLR's?

Well I must go against the flow.
I use the video on my compact quite often to cover panoramas. I know I can make panoramas with my SLR but I get the sound as well. Nothing hi tec just a pleasing snapshot of a landscape with maybe the Oystercachers calling. Wish I had that facility on my SLR
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Re: Video necessary a good thing on new DSLR's?

After decades of still photography I've recently got into video and am thoroughly enjoying it! I'm not saying it's better - just different - and there are some subjects that just work better as a movie. At present I'm using a Canon HF-S100, but if something could combine the qualities of that and, say, a 40D, I'd be very interested.
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Old 31-07-2009, 13:37   #9 (permalink)
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Re: Video necessary a good thing on new DSLR's?

When the children were young I used a dedicated video camera but have little need for such a device now. However, having recently bought the EOS 5D MII, I noted that it had a video facility though I had no need for it and bought the camera for other reasons. Last week I went to my son's graduation and used the video facility for the first time and it produces nice HD output for showing on a TV which is great for the odd family special event. Even while taking a video, you can still take a separate still shot.

I am not sure that it would cost any less to produce a modern DSLR without a video capability. I suspect it is all done by software. Of course there are some initial development costs to produce the software but after that, I doubt that it affects productions costs.

I am not arguing that anyone goes out of there way to ensure that buy a DSLR with video but nor should you avoid a particular DSLR because it has video. My DSLR has a JPEG facility which is why the camera has to have such a powerful processor (and thus has the capacity for video) but I never use the JPEG capability and cannot see that I ever will. I am sure that there are many other facilities that I do not use but the manufacture has to package a range of facilities to make an economic and attractive product.
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Old 31-07-2009, 18:22   #10 (permalink)
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Re: Video necessary a good thing on new DSLR's?

As far as I am concerned I do not want a video on my camera. Leave it off and keep the price down.
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Re: Video necessary a good thing on new DSLR's?

It woulnd't stop me buying a specific model, but it is not one of the features I would be looking for in a new camera.
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Old 01-08-2009, 20:21   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Video necessary a good thing on new DSLR's?

There is an interesting article in this months Professional Photographer magazine , where an award winning film director, now uses Canon 5D MKII's for his work, with impressive results.

Richard Jobson Canon 5D MKII Short Films - Am I Digital

Now where was that quote from Markulous that said HD video from the 5D MKII would never be taken seriously
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Re: Video necessary a good thing on new DSLR's?

I think putting a video capability into a DSLR is a distraction from the business of taking photographs. Ok so not everyone is like me and gets distracted at the drop of a hat but I want a camera that allows me to concentrate on taking a good picture and not worrying about whether i should be using video or wasting a stills oportunity! Of course those of you more versed at multi tasking will have no problems! I cant help thinking tho that manufacturers just add more gimmicks to inflate the price instead of improving a core product.
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Re: Video necessary a good thing on new DSLR's?

I have a JVC Hi-Def cam-corder with built in hard drive that is about the size of a medium lens....
If I want Video, I have that.

Sooner or later, someone will put a bloomin' PHONE on the camera......

I have a "Norks Nut Nourisher" 18 inch stillson wrench, that does NOT take photo's, make Videos, receive faxes or double as a web browser.... until I see the need to cross it with a toaster, I suspect I will remain in "The dark ages" and not see the reason to include Video on what could have been an even better camera if they had invested the R&D elsewhere.............
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Now where was that quote from Markulous that said HD video from the 5D MKII would never be taken seriously
Oh, that's why people buy soap powder that's advertised by a celebrity - they really do think it's a personal recommendation for absolutely no financial gain!

None of the professional cameramen I know would use it except for a laugh....... or they were paid!
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I have always liked mini DV's for video, I now use a small pocket camera and at gatherings I place it in a hidden place and just let it roll for awhile, get some great conversations and pictures from that. Wouldn't do it with a big ole hunkin SLR. I'm not ready for it, don't want it as of now but it wouldn't stop me from buying the camera I wanted. All good points in this thread, but as I remember this forum is about photographing. Maybe we need to write a letter to the makers and voice our opinions.
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Oh, that's why people buy soap powder that's advertised by a celebrity - they really do think it's a personal recommendation for absolutely no financial gain!
Are you insinuating the director got paid for using 5D's & of course all the people that praise the work he has done with said cameras Canons marketing budget must be larger than I thought
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Are you insinuating the director got paid for using 5D's & of course all the people that praise the work he has done with said cameras Canons marketing budget must be larger than I thought
I'd be gobsmacked if he didn't get sponsorship - I've done similar deals (mainly cars, clothing, holidays, etc)

The fact that a great stills 'tog can get great shots from an instamatic doesn't mean that they'd prefer to use one!
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