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Old 22-11-2007, 15:05   #1 (permalink)
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What are the best laptops for storing and editing photo's?

I am getting a new laptop soon, so i can be more portable with my work, however i'm not sure which laptop will work the best with software such as photo-shop and editing programmes.. also a high internet speed is a must and large amount of disk space for storing the larger pictures from my cannon SLR.

Can anyone give me advice on which laptop will be a good choice? (bearing in mind i do have a budget)
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Re: What are the best laptops for storing and editing photo's?

I'd be interested in replies to this as well!!
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Re: What are the best laptops for storing and editing photo's?

no laptop is "good" for this. certainly not as a main workhorse. Relative to a desktop they are cramped, lack power and are very expensive.

That said, you should be looking @ 1Gb RAM as a minimum (4GB if *spit* Vista), 17" screen. Hard drive shouldn't be that important as u could archive older stuff off to an external drive when your back at home/office.

Avoid, like it has a disease, anything that contains a "Celeron" or "Turion"



btw your desires for power and budget are completely incompatible... sorry
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Re: What are the best laptops for storing and editing photo's?

Screen quality, Memory (at least 2 GB), Processor, Disk Drive would be my 'speed' priorities (in that order)

Graphics processor, 'Net connection are unimportant, relatively.
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Re: What are the best laptops for storing and editing photo's?

I'd take a look at the Acer range as a reasonable balance of price and quality. I've had an Acer 5612WLMI for about 15 months and there have been no problems so far, running XP and Ubuntu as dual boot. This is the current equivalent but with more RAM and a larger HD than mine.

If you're forced to get Vista, 2GB RAM is recommended. Go for an Intel Core-2-Duo (T-series) processor since they are less power-hungry than most of the others.
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Re: What are the best laptops for storing and editing photo's?

Reliability is key with a laptop since they are more prone to problems than a desktop most reliable are Lenovo, highest satisfaction is with Applebooks. Screen resolution will have big impact on photo editing.

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(4GB if *spit* Vista),
No point unless you have a 64 bit operating system (few laptops do) as it won't address over 3GB. The latest photoshop release is now optimised for Vista so runs faster and leaner on Vista than XP if photo editing is most important for you.

If you go for a single HDD then 200gb is about as big as they go on a laptop drive. Externals are good for archiving but remember they fail a lot. (I've had several fail and currently have a 2TB lacie drive awaiting a RMA)

I'd also be looking for a firewire 800 port if possible since it makes a huge difference to external drives and card readers.

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Re: What are the best laptops for storing and editing photo's?

I agree that Lenovo are great for build (Lenovo inherited all the IBM ThinkPad tech as well as the brand). I'm quite a fan of the higher-end Toshiba models too.

I would avoid Samsung based on personal no-so-great experience of them.

However, orangepeel is totally right - you'll get a much better system for the money if you buy a desktop, especially if you're on a budget.
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I am using a Dell XPS 2 gig of ram, 2 Duo T7100 processor. It does a great job with photos and anything else I like to do. I would use an external drive for photo storage. That will give you a good place to dump off photos and leave your laptop drive less cluttered.
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Re: What are the best laptops for storing and editing photo's?

I'd suggest 2GB ram, a decent hard drive - they go up to 300GB that I've seen - so you're not messing about with external hard drives, and a 15" screen if it's to be mobile (definitely NOT 17").

I recommend Vista

Graphics - Sony's definitely got the edge there IMO. I don't like the look of the graphics on any of the Toshiba ones.

I have a Sony FZ11M which is great EXCEPT the battery only lasts about an hour, so it's not much good for mobility, but it's fast + powerful, it suits me but I keep it plugged into the mains most of the time.

As OP says, you can't have it both ways - if you want a big drive, good graphics, lots of ram + good speed, you're gonna pay for it! Also, generally speaking power + mobility don't go hand in hand with laptops either; the light laptops which are good for mobility have small screens, small drives, small batteries which do last longer, but that's because the laptop will generally have less power + well less everything.

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Old 23-11-2007, 00:48   #10 (permalink)
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Re: What are the best laptops for storing and editing photo's?

Thanks so much for all of your help,

its going to be tricky now,

i didn't know what to look for and now i seem to have quite a few options to choose,

I know laptops aren't ideal for photographic work but my Dell Dimension 5150 is a great desktop system and has a 19'' screen but unfortunately, my dad uses it frequently as well - i mean its still where i will do most of my work, but having a laptop handy too will be a big bonus. Also because they're mobile and compact.

If there are any other recommendations I'd love to hear them
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Until very recently ie last couple of months SONY laptops were probably the most unreliable around. We cannot order them for that reason and most govt departments are the same around the world. A google search will unearth all the surveys that show this. However they have announced they want to change this so now will be moving to function over form and improved reliability and customer service as they want a chunk of the corporate sector.
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I would get a cheap and cheerful lappy with WiFi and send your dad into the shed with it... then reclaim your desktop. Best of both worlds that way!
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Getting hold of a laptop that doesn't have Vista is going to be difficult now

The most recent one I got for work was a Toshiba Portege. The Xp'd version was no longer available so I got the Vista one and downgraded to Xp. - Very tedious to reload the Xp drivers and apps but definitely worth it to get the performance back.

From experience, dealing with Sony and Acer's repair services were not something I'd call fun .

Laptops are all about compromises. Were it me, I'd go with a 15" screen 2Gb and a decent processor. I wouldn't rely on it as my primary device as a desktop would offer more scope for disk space, better graphics card (which would help with a better monitor) and so on.

if you already have PC software, don't bother with a Mac. Yes you can boot into a Windows shell but why would you??
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I think the laptop can meet the monitor expectations created by a desktop. Again, it will come with a price. If you can pull it off, I would recommend getting a docking station and an additional monitor. When you get home you drop your laptop into the docking station and have all the functionality of a powerful laptop with a calibrated monitor. Maybe making this purchase in stages will make it more palitable. I am a novice in photography, but a power user of my laptop for my career. I travel with my laptop for work and photography when daily. As soon as I get home I plug into my dock and have a quicker wired connection and a more ergonimic work environment at my desk.
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if you already have PC software, don't bother with a Mac. Yes you can boot into a Windows shell but why would you??
As someone who knows PCs well but not much about Macs, one of the things that has always put me off exploring Macs was the fear that some quirky little utility that I find useful wouldn't be available for Mac.
I suppose examples might include divx encoding utilities, password crackers and that sort of thing.

I see the ability to dual boot into Windows as a security blanket for people like me - it's effectively put to bed one of the final excuses for not getting a Mac... because if I can't do it on MacOS I know I have the option of Windows as a last resort without getting the retired PC out of the loft.

Nowadays, I tend to use my PC for browsing, Photoshop, authoring the occasional DVD and ripping it to divx to put on my P5000. That sort of thing is all possible on a Mac (I'm told!).

I've heard lots of good things about MacOS from former Wintel die-hards, who say they wouldn't go back to Windows now they've switched. They can't all be wrong.

Finally, Apple stuff is just nice in terms of look and feel. You have to try hard to find a PC setup which the missus would allow in the living room...
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no laptop is "good" for this. certainly not as a main workhorse. Relative to a desktop they are cramped, lack power and are very expensive.

That said, you should be looking @ 1Gb RAM as a minimum (4GB if *spit* Vista), 17" screen. Hard drive shouldn't be that important as u could archive older stuff off to an external drive when your back at home/office.

Avoid, like it has a disease, anything that contains a "Celeron" or "Turion"



btw your desires for power and budget are completely incompatible... sorry
I disagree with you there my friend,

I use a DELL Inspiron 1720, with 2Gig Ram, Dual core processor 1.7 I think, Adobe CS3 is fine, and it did not break the bank.

Laptops are excellent tools now days for all types of work and can be specced to individual requirements or professions.
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A DELL Inspiron 1720 would run fine with that, reason being a DELL Inspiron 1720 is a Notebook not a Laptop therfore it lacks somethings a Laptop has like.


The Notebook Computer
A standard notebook has the following features:
1. Ultralight. Less weight is better.
2. 4 - 5 hour battery life.
3. No internal floppy drive.
4. Minimal graphics subsystem.
5. No internal DVD or CD system.(some newer do have this option)
6. 12" - 14" TFT screen.
7. Low profile (thin).
8. Integrated modem and network connection.
9. Smallest possible keyboard that retains functionality.
10. Low power consumption Celeron/Centrino or Sempron style processor.
11. Targeted at students

The Laptop Computer
Now for the laptop computer. Again look at the name. A laptop is designed to sit on your lap and you can therefore expect it to be quite large and loaded down with features and power.
The standard laptop computer would have some ,if not all, of the following features:
1. 14" - 17" (widescreen) TFT screen.
2. Nvidia GeForce or ATI Radeon graphics subsystem.
3. Internal DVD-ROM or DVD-RW drive
4. Large full featured keyboard.
5. 3 hour+ battery life.
6. Upgradeable.
7. Integrated modem, network, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi capabilities.
8. High quality integrate audio and speaker system.
9. Low power consumption, high performance Intel Centrino style processor.


Now put what you have on a Laptop and install Adobe CS3 and store your pictures and get Photoshop CS3 and a couple of plug-ins youl probably need and turn on the Internet and trust me IT WILL NOT RUN THE SAME.

So I have to agree with Peel, a Laptop is not designed to be your main workhorse.
But if you have a notebook that you say works well for you why buy a Laptop?
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A DELL Inspiron 1720 would run fine with that, reason being a DELL Inspiron 1720 is a Notebook not a Laptop therfore it lacks somethings a Laptop has like.


The Notebook Computer
A standard notebook has the following features:
1. Ultralight. Less weight is better.
2. 4 - 5 hour battery life.
3. No internal floppy drive.
4. Minimal graphics subsystem.
5. No internal DVD or CD system.(some newer do have this option)
6. 12" - 14" TFT screen.
7. Low profile (thin).
8. Integrated modem and network connection.
9. Smallest possible keyboard that retains functionality.
10. Low power consumption Celeron/Centrino or Sempron style processor.
11. Targeted at students

The Laptop Computer
Now for the laptop computer. Again look at the name. A laptop is designed to sit on your lap and you can therefore expect it to be quite large and loaded down with features and power.
The standard laptop computer would have some ,if not all, of the following features:
1. 14" - 17" (widescreen) TFT screen.
2. Nvidia GeForce or ATI Radeon graphics subsystem.
3. Internal DVD-ROM or DVD-RW drive
4. Large full featured keyboard.
5. 3 hour+ battery life.
6. Upgradeable.
7. Integrated modem, network, Bluetooth and Wi-Fi capabilities.
8. High quality integrate audio and speaker system.
9. Low power consumption, high performance Intel Centrino style processor.


Now put what you have on a Laptop and install Adobe CS3 and store your pictures and get Photoshop CS3 and a couple of plug-ins youl probably need and turn on the Internet and trust me IT WILL NOT RUN THE SAME.

So I have to agree with Peel, a Laptop is not designed to be your main workhorse.
But if you have a notebook that you say works well for you why buy a Laptop?
I think you need to visit Dell's & HP's web sites, your statement is incorrect in several areas for Notebooks:

4. Minimal graphics subsystem.
5. No internal DVD or CD system.(some newer do have this option)
6. 12" - 14" TFT screen.
9. Smallest possible keyboard that retains functionality.
10. Low power consumption Celeron/Centrino or Sempron style processor. perhaps!
11. Targeted at students


A notebook is not designed to sit on your lap? haha come on man get real!!!!

I work for one of the Worlds Largest Hardware Manufacters and have worked in the Project delivery/ service delivery for over 20 years, I think I know our products and the target areas we are trying to enter!!!!

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Try a search on google for Laptops, brings ups Notebooks, I think they are one of a type nowdays........................................
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I disagree with you there my friend,

I use a DELL Inspiron 1720, with 2Gig Ram, Dual core processor 1.7 I think, Adobe CS3 is fine, and it did not break the bank.

Laptops are excellent tools now days for all types of work and can be specced to individual requirements or professions.
It's got nothing to do with the power my friend, although the money paid woulda bought a desktop that'd destroy an equivalent priced laptop.

No, it's all about the screen / work area. Speaking as someone who runs 3 monitors with a res of 4480 x 1600 I'm into desktop space . Given PS eats up multiple screens without batting an eye that kinda implies, to me, more is better - a luxury simply not available on a laptop.

Nah, laptops are great for browsing, emailing, watching movies (if it's quiet enough) or occasional officey stuff. But they blow massively at anything more power usery - i.e. in context, serious ps work.

I'm a computer programmer by trade and if an employer gave me a laptop to use instead of a desktop, I'd have good grounds for pulling them up for health and safety violations. Laptops are simply too small and cramped for any serious work.

Hell got a bunch of mates who swear by em for gaming. I asked em how their rigs are setup. To a man they all dump em on a desk, hook up a monitor, keyboard and mouse to play. I mean... wtf is the point of that?

Then there's the age old issues of upgrade-ability and reliability. Your video card pops, throw out the laptop. Your screen develops a fault, throw out the laptop, motherboard issues? Throw out the laptop. Coz make no mistake, if you're outside of warranty you'll find replacement parts cost more than a new bloody laptop!


If you truly need to be mobile and do PS work out in the field then granted a laptop is both required and can do the job. However in my experience most people plop em on a table in the house and work just like you would a desktop.
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It's got nothing to do with the power my friend, although the money paid woulda bought a desktop that'd destroy an equivalent priced laptop.

No, it's all about the screen / work area. Speaking as someone who runs 3 monitors with a res of 4480 x 1600 I'm into desktop space . Given PS eats up multiple screens without batting an eye that kinda implies, to me, more is better - a luxury simply not available on a laptop.

Nah, laptops are great for browsing, emailing, watching movies (if it's quiet enough) or occasional officey stuff. But they blow massively at anything more power usery - i.e. in context, serious ps work.

I'm a computer programmer by trade and if an employer gave me a laptop to use instead of a desktop, I'd have good grounds for pulling them up for health and safety violations. Laptops are simply too small and cramped for any serious work.

Hell got a bunch of mates who swear by em for gaming. I asked em how their rigs are setup. To a man they all dump em on a desk, hook up a monitor, keyboard and mouse to play. I mean... wtf is the point of that?

Then there's the age old issues of upgrade-ability and reliability. Your video card pops, throw out the laptop. Your screen develops a fault, throw out the laptop, motherboard issues? Throw out the laptop. Coz make no mistake, if you're outside of warranty you'll find replacement parts cost more than a new bloody laptop!


If you truly need to be mobile and do PS work out in the field then granted a laptop is both required and can do the job. However in my experience most people plop em on a table in the house and work just like you would a desktop.
Agree with some, but Laptops/Notebooks they are the same now just do the search, Your work would warrant a Desktop, however we make some very powerful Notebooks and they are aimed at the business sector
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ORANGEPEEL, YOU MENTIONED CELERON, WHAT IS THAT AS I HAVE THAT ON MINE.
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I USE A LAPTOP ( IF THAT'S THE CORRECT WORD ) AS I FOUND I COULD NOT SIT COMFORTABLY AT A DESKTOP COMPUTER.

IF ALL COMPUTERS NOW COME WITH VISTA, DOES THIS MEAN YOU CANNOT USE
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The only way to find out is install it and hope it works. Pretty much everything I've tried so far deisnged for XP works fine on Vista. Well... they start up and operate, fine is a bit of an exaggeration what with the waiting and the incessant "do you want to run this?" questions...
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Woody - Celeron is the type of CPU (processor). It's slightly outmoded now, and I'd suggest a laptop/notebook/whatever with an Intel Centrino Core-2-Duo processor. They're labelled something beginning with a 'T'.

If you want, you can scrap Vista and install XP instead. Some manufacturers offer this as an option, and I heard that Microsoft will sell XP as an alternative to Vista for a small sum. You may also find someone who has a (legit ) copy of XP that you can use.

Alternatively, there may be upgrades to your current software which are designed to run with Vista and have the digital signing needed to avoid the hassle referred to by MB.
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MB AND SILKSTONE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP AND ADVICE.
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