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Old 07-02-2009, 16:48   #31 (permalink)
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Yep, place a coloured gel filter in front of light (facing background & not model)

Alternatively, you can buy an optical trigger like this :- SKY-3 Optical Slave Trigger for Hot Shoe Flash on eBay, also, Flash Units, Digital Camera Accessories, Photography (end time 20-Feb-09 11:36:05 GMT) allowing you to use your camera flash (SB800 ?) with coloured gel, to light background.

<update> Remembered SB800 has optical slave built in,so you don't need the addition above. Canon flashguns would though

You can get some free gels for flashgun, by following this advice :- Free Flash Gels - UK Strobing Ľ David James Williams
I just got my swatch from them, great assortment of colors
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Old 07-02-2009, 22:27   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Studio Shoot - Different Lighting setups - Example shots

Nice set and I love the clamshell lighting which is something I intend to try as soon as I get the time although it will be with speedlights and smaller softboxes, I'm also going to try and rig up a clamp system to hold it together as I think this lighting setup would be great for brides.
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Okay I know I am joining this post pretty late but I finally am setting up my studio properly (rather than just playing around hit and miss at a friend's)

I like all 4 setups, but I have some questions and I was wondering if anyone, or Dave, can help me out.

General questions.

1) It has been over a few months since I shot in studio and I was not really paying 100% attention the last time I tried all this. I set my aperture according to the MAIN Light reading right? As in I would shoot at F11? Which will basically make everything in focus.

2) Must all these setups be shot at F11? F11 will require quite a bit of power and I am not sure my strobes can pump out that much light. Which means for Setup 1 and 2 my "rim light" will have to be able to pump out F16 to F22. (I have a 900 Ws strobe and a 300 Ws strobe as well as a pair of 200Ws strobes, so should I put my 900 Ws as my rim light instead and try to pump enough out of my 300 Ws to get to a F11?) Roughly how far is/should the Main light from the model(s) be in setup 1 and 2? Would 4 ft be enough for setup 1 and say 8 for setup 2? Cause I don't think I will have enough room to put the main light back anymore than 8 feet. (Rough 3 feet to a meter I think)

For set up #3 what is the rim light at? F11 as well or F16 or less?

Okay and here is another questions for you guys related to these setups.

If you were doing this say for a home studio with paying clients how many different setups would you or do you normally go through in an hour sitting session? I like these 4 setups as I don't think they are that hard to setup from one to another. Which within an hour shoot would be okay (too many setups makes it hard for me to move all my gear around and my clients will feel uncomfortable)

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Old 14-07-2009, 08:28   #35 (permalink)
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Re: Studio Shoot - Different Lighting setups - Example shots

For what it is worth, I've had good results for head and shoulders shots in a slightly small room using two 400watt lights with the key light around 3-4 feet from the subject and a back/side light at 4-5 feet. The key light set at the lowest power and the other one + half a stop.

Settings are ISO 50 1/80th -1/100th at f8-9.

Dave and some other members have far more experience in studio techniques so will be better placed to give advice for the different set ups you mention, the small space I used did limit my scope.

The correct exposure can be found fairly quickly using the histogram, but a flash meter makes it much easier and quicker. I used the key light only to set the exposure, but you might find some tweaking of either the flash power or exposure will be needed to get the results you want.

I was using the bigger softbox of my two for the key light and the smaller one for the fiil/backlight. If you use a snoot for the backlight you might also find the more concentrated light will need another variation in distance/power etc.
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Re: Studio Shoot - Different Lighting setups - Example shots

Light permitting you can shoot at whatever aperture you want I find with the 400W D-Lites, at lowest power setting I'm usually around f/5.6.

To obtain the "best" light for portraits, always try to get the key lights as close as possible to model. The further away the light, the harsher it is. The only reason I pull back a light, is if I am trying to do a full length shot. I now have a 6ft x 4ft softbox, which I'll place within 2 foot of model for best results.

For rim lighting, I never took a reading, but really played it by eye. It's all according to how subtle you want it vs latter shots where it was very evident

As for number of ligting setups, keep it to a minimum & concentrate on different poses. If I'm shooting at someones house, I usually keep to 2 lights to keep it simple & ensure I capture the "money" shots. Once those have been captured, then you have time to play with more adventurous setups

Best tip is to grab a friend & practice some setups, plus experiment, experiment, experiment

Let us know how you get on
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Re: Studio Shoot - Different Lighting setups - Example shots

love the shots, wish i could practice with a model, would love to take portraits like that.
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Re: Studio Shoot - Different Lighting setups - Example shots

I've just taken the plunge and ordered one of the interfit ex150 MkII kits to go with my 5D and 24-105L

This thread has got me soooooo excited. can't wait to get some pics of my wife and our new puppy!

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Excellent. Don't forget to share the results
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Old 24-10-2009, 22:01   #40 (permalink)
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Re: Studio Shoot - Different Lighting setups - Example shots

Very good diagrams and lovely photos. One thing I do not understand. Why shoot at 1/125 or even 1/80? Isnt the ambient light (which most of the time is ugly fluorescent or tungsten) going to influence your shots? I tend to go as high I can (1/250) in order to eliminate any trace of ambient light. Am I right..am I wrong??
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well i have just taken delivery of the interfit ex150 MkII kit as well, so along with my old bowens light i cant wait now to have a proper play......... only problem is finding somewhere to play in! lol
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well i have just taken delivery of the interfit ex150 MkII kit as well, so along with my old bowens light i cant wait now to have a proper play......... only problem is finding somewhere to play in! lol
That's good news Fi Looking forward to seeing your moody mono portraits
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Very good diagrams and lovely photos. One thing I do not understand. Why shoot at 1/125 or even 1/80? Isnt the ambient light (which most of the time is ugly fluorescent or tungsten) going to influence your shots? I tend to go as high I can (1/250) in order to eliminate any trace of ambient light. Am I right..am I wrong??
The room was near dark, so I had no probs there, but you are right re the principal if you have ambient light present. That said according to how powerful your studio lights are, you can always counter the effect by upping the power.
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well i have just taken delivery of the interfit ex150 MkII kit as well, so along with my old bowens light i cant wait now to have a proper play......... only problem is finding somewhere to play in! lol
Way to go Fi
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Cheers Dave

Few more questions if you dont mind.
What size softboxes and how close did you position the lights in relation to you subject?
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I use the D-Lite 4's kit, so have a look at their spec. I try to keep the main light as close as possible to model, to provide the best quality light. Only if I need to a larger spread of light do I move them back.
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Cheers Dave

I use the same kit but have replaced the soft boxes that came with the kit with two 104cm Elinchrom umbrellas. Thank you for taking time to share your experience with us.

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Cheers Dave

I use the same kit but have replaced the soft boxes that came with the kit with two 104cm Elinchrom umbrellas. Thank you for taking time to share your experience with us.

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Just be aware with umbrellas you have less control over light spill. No problem if you have a large room to shoot in, but otherwise the light spilling round edge of umbrella can bounce off walls , low ceilings etc.
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That is a really interesting read with the diagrams. Superb that. Really informative!
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Hi Dave,
Reading this thread led me to register on this forum, which I don't often do. Some very useful info and very well presented. Well done, Iíll be keeping an eye on your threads.
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Hi Dave,
Reading this thread led me to register on this forum, which I don't often do. Some very useful info and very well presented. Well done, Iíll be keeping an eye on your threads.
Cheers. Lots of other good info on here from members so worth checking in regularly
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I know this is quite dated but the technique is not. I do not have the budget to purchase your studio equipment. I was thinking one softbox 3-6' and an umberella in the back (maybe another softbox) for fill. I love your second and third setup...was wondering if you had any equipment ideas to midly duplicated this under $220?

I have always been into outdoor photography and more recently HDR but there is a baby boom up here and I want to get into the action of baby and senior portraits. Any help would be greatly apperciated. In addition to this I am looking to purchase the Master Lighting Guide for Portrait Photographers - Christopher Grey; Paperback. Again I hope you can help.
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Welcome to Pixalo Nick

Most of us are on a budget but I think you are best going for decent quality secondhand lighting kit from a recognised brand that if necessary you can get spare parts for rather than the cheap unbranded kits that you find on e-bay and other similar sites. Best value is usually to see if you can get a complete kit including stands and light modifiers when someone is upgrading.

You can always use window light and a home made reflector to start.
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Nice Post! Helpful

Thanks
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Great post dave! Incredible that after 4 years of posting this thread, people are still replying and thanking you for it...I am no exception! Doing a shoot tomorrow and utilizing some of these techniques, wish me luck!
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Glad you bumped this thread.

Realy informative.
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How do you create these lighting diagrams
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He used some software to do it. Knowing Dave probably free.
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