Call this critique!?

JMitchell · 04-02-2008, 00:32

Was just browsing A.N Other forum, and came across the most pathetic crit ever, and then some support of it. Makes me count myself lucky I'm a regular here

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Originally Posted by Another forum, but a good 'tog

Your exposure and sharpness seem to be there [username1]. You might want to read this:
Composition (visual arts) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Then:

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Originally Posted by Same forum, a few posts down

Nice pics and great critique [username2]

Honestly...

silkstone · 04-02-2008, 00:51

I thought initially that the second post may have been sarcastic but, er, probably not!

Slightly OT, but TBH it's quite difficult to give critique unless you know something about the person who is inviting it. Some people genuinely want (constructive) criticism and respond positively to it, whilst others are expecting a 'gosh, wow, fantastic!' response and are offended if they get anything else.

I'm sure that most Pixalo members fall into the first category, and that is the only way to learn - and we should never, ever stop learning until we're in a big box with brass handles.

AQ · 04-02-2008, 13:32

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Originally Posted by silkstone

others are expecting a 'gosh, wow, fantastic!' response and are offended if they get anything else.

I guess that they would not submit another picture in that case and they would not learn anything.

slipstream · 04-02-2008, 20:26

I just want genuine critique good or bad. Take it like a man and learn and move on.

Charlotte · 04-02-2008, 20:55

Agree with Silky about knowing the photographer + have to admit I'm more comfortable giving a full critique to pixalonians whom I know, and I do back off a bit with newbies ... just so that they have something to look forward to

When receiving critique, it's as well to remember that a lot of it is down to personal taste, but if you have a lot of ppl saying the same things, then you know there's got to be something in what they're saying. If someone gets offended by genuine critique, then they're not ready to receive critique. And that's not a criticism

Our own photo's are very personal to us + so yes, we can take critique personally; the trick to not getting offended is to remember that opinions + advice offered are meant in a helpful way.

JMitchell · 04-02-2008, 21:06

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Originally Posted by slipstream

I just want genuine critique good or bad. Take it like a man and learn and move on.

a good sentiment definitely kevin, I just don't like seeig a lack of effort. Anyway, how are you doing?

Rob Barron · 08-02-2008, 14:55

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Originally Posted by silkstone

I'm sure that most Pixalo members fall into the first category, and that is the only way to learn - and we should never, ever stop learning until we're in a big box with brass handles.

I'll still be learning then Silky.... I'll have learnt that I should have looked more carefully before I crossed that busy road! <g>

j sotelo · 09-02-2008, 03:06

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Originally Posted by silkstone

Slightly OT, but TBH it's quite difficult to give critique unless you know something about the person who is inviting it. Some people genuinely want (constructive) criticism and respond positively to it, whilst others are expecting a 'gosh, wow, fantastic!' response and are offended if they get anything else.

You hit it right on the nose
this is so true
you give a critique and if you don't "Wow Fantastic" their image they give you so many excuses for the critique you give,
don't get why they put the picture up in critique in the first place if they think their image is perfect.

slipstream · 10-02-2008, 19:56

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Originally Posted by JMitchell

a good sentiment definitely kevin, I just don't like seeig a lack of effort. Anyway, how are you doing?

Hi Jack,
Yeah Im good, just upgraded to D200 so learning how to use the beast.
You have some good pics here mate, still with the trusty D50 I see, keep it up

JMitchell · 10-02-2008, 20:14

lol thanks. Yes, still going with it, but also thinking of upgrading to either a D200 or a D300 depending on how deep my pockets are after my birthday (16 days!!!)

Rob Barron · 13-02-2008, 19:23

Is your mum buyng you a new pair of trousers then Jack?

Happy birthday in case I forget in 13 days time

Cheers,
Rob

JMitchell · 13-02-2008, 20:11

good guess rob but no I don't think so. For the body only I need £300, but I don't have cards...

Soupdragon · 13-02-2008, 20:29

I think what people tend to overlook is:

You make sort of pen friends on these forums and, whilst you may think their work is cr#p, you tend to lean to the ambiguous to avoid hurting people.

JMitchell · 13-02-2008, 20:48

is that good or bad in your opinion soup?

04-02-2008, 00:51	#2 (permalink)
silkstone Feet under the table Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Silkstone Common, Yorkshire, UK Posts: 3,415	Re: Call this critique!? I thought initially that the second post may have been sarcastic but, er, probably not! Slightly OT, but TBH it's quite difficult to give critique unless you know something about the person who is inviting it. Some people genuinely want (constructive) criticism and respond positively to it, whilst others are expecting a 'gosh, wow, fantastic!' response and are offended if they get anything else. I'm sure that most Pixalo members fall into the first category, and that is the only way to learn - and we should never, ever stop learning until we're in a big box with brass handles. __________________ "I believe in equality for everyone, except reporters and photographers" - Mahatma Gandhi

04-02-2008, 20:26	#4 (permalink)
slipstream Quite Chatty Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 65	Re: Call this critique!? I just want genuine critique good or bad. Take it like a man and learn and move on.

04-02-2008, 20:55	#5 (permalink)
Charlotte Loves the place Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Romsey, Hampshire Posts: 5,795	Re: Call this critique!? Agree with Silky about knowing the photographer + have to admit I'm more comfortable giving a full critique to pixalonians whom I know, and I do back off a bit with newbies ... just so that they have something to look forward to When receiving critique, it's as well to remember that a lot of it is down to personal taste, but if you have a lot of ppl saying the same things, then you know there's got to be something in what they're saying. If someone gets offended by genuine critique, then they're not ready to receive critique. And that's not a criticism Our own photo's are very personal to us + so yes, we can take critique personally; the trick to not getting offended is to remember that opinions + advice offered are meant in a helpful way. __________________ Work Smarter, Not Harder Last edited by Charlotte : 04-02-2008 at 21:01.

10-02-2008, 20:14	#10 (permalink)
JMitchell Feet under the table Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, England Posts: 3,520	Re: Call this critique!? lol thanks. Yes, still going with it, but also thinking of upgrading to either a D200 or a D300 depending on how deep my pockets are after my birthday (16 days!!!)

13-02-2008, 19:23	#11 (permalink)
Rob Barron Loves the place Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Poole, Dorset Posts: 5,204	Re: Call this critique!? Is your mum buyng you a new pair of trousers then Jack? Happy birthday in case I forget in 13 days time Cheers, Rob

13-02-2008, 20:11	#12 (permalink)
JMitchell Feet under the table Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, England Posts: 3,520	Re: Call this critique!? good guess rob but no I don't think so. For the body only I need £300, but I don't have cards...

13-02-2008, 20:29	#13 (permalink)
Soupdragon Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,091	Re: Call this critique!? I think what people tend to overlook is: You make sort of pen friends on these forums and, whilst you may think their work is cr#p, you tend to lean to the ambiguous to avoid hurting people.

13-02-2008, 20:48	#14 (permalink)
JMitchell Feet under the table Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, England Posts: 3,520	Re: Call this critique!? is that good or bad in your opinion soup?