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Old 04-09-2010, 13:32   #1 (permalink)
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I got the 500D yesterday and this might sound a little bit stupid. is there a way to achieve a good bokeh with the KIT lens? I've been shooting in Av mode. I mean, it can only go up to f/3.5 at the wide angle end and the closest focusing distance is 0.25m

so far, I got few "good" results with flowers and stuff. but when it comes to portraits, it doesn't do much good. what can I do until I buy a 50mm? help out a total noob?
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Re: 18-55mm KIT lens

You could try some close up filters. They are not expensive and can give reasonable results, but not sure if the bokeh will improve as I've never used them. Maybe someone who has can comment.

Alternatively you can blur the background in an editing program.
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You could try some close up filters. They are not expensive and can give reasonable results, but not sure if the bokeh will improve as I've never used them. Maybe someone who has can comment.

Alternatively you can blur the background in an editing program.
hmm I have some close up filters. I'll try to use them.

editing programs are not that accurate. I mean, it takes a lot of time to get accurate image with a good bokeh. I've been using CS4 for about 2 years.

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editing programs are not that accurate. I mean, it takes a lot of time to get accurate image with a good bokeh. I've been using CS4 for about 2 years.

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Duplicate the layer then add guasian blur. Add a layer mask and press D for default. Paint the subject back in using black and if you go over a bit that you wanted blurred press X and re-paint in the blur. Then press X again to get back to black.

Depending on the flower it should not take long to do. Post up an image and i'll have a go if you like.
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Duplicate the layer then add guasian blur. Add a layer mask and press D for default. Paint the subject back in using black and if you go over a bit that you wanted blurred press X and re-paint in the blur. Then press X again to get back to black.

Depending on the flower it should not take long to do. Post up an image and i'll have a go if you like.
no, I'm not having problems with flowers and small items. it's people, portraits. you know, hair always gives trouble

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these are few images I did few months ago. didn't use photoshop for a reasonable period of time.
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no, I'm not having problems with flowers and small items. it's people, portraits. you know, hair always gives trouble

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You can use the blur tool to give the hair a more natural look after you have done the BG as I described.
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Re: 18-55mm KIT lens

See here for a discussion on 'bokeh'.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/bokeh.htm

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Strictly speaking 'bokeh' is a function of the lens construction, in particular the number and shape of the aperture blades (the more the better, rounded tips, etc).

Either a lens has good 'bokeh' or it doesn't; yours isn't noted for it I'm afraid.

You do, however, have control of the OOF background to your shots. Shoot with the lens wide open. Try to ensure the background isn't 'messy'. Try to ensure the subject is some distance from the background, etc.

As Dabhand 16 suggests, with your lens you may have to focus (sorry!) on PP to get the effect you want.
yeah, I guess so too. although I tried many things today and got few results. they are not that good. but fair enough. thanks.
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