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Old 15-04-2013, 20:00   #1 (permalink)
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300mm Lens and how to kill it

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I have for what reason I'm still trying to fathom purchased a canon 70-300mm lens with no Image stability , my question is how do I get the best from it . appart from a really fast shutter at 300mm which gives a large aperture which give a soft photograph . so words from the font would be appreciated .
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Very bright light or a tripod, beanbag etc.
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Re: 300mm Lens and how to kill it

Up until a few years ago, I was in a position to invest into some glass that I normally would not buy. I now cannot buy this higher priced glass or what you would want with extras,,like stabilized lens of large mm. I now look for a work around, like a used lens or like Stepheno say's ,,your tripod.. I know that my prime 100mm macro at one time was a pain. I made a tripod that I could stick in the ground and move one leg to focus 1:1. I think if you want it bad enough, you might find away. I love the glass I have, the cameras go by and the glass stays. I wonder what will happen when I have been retired for five years and ten years into it. I learned to hold my 100mm at 1/20 th of a second pretty much 70% success. If you really want that 300mm, I say buy it and work the best you can with it. You will do fine as everybody did at one time when the stabilize was a dream. Go for it and be proud of the great picture that will come with proven technics. every single new technic you have asked about you have been able to pull it in and do what you set out to do,,,,yakity yak,,I know, but I like you because you try and do good so I'm hootin for you Bear.

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Re: 300mm Lens and how to kill it

I got the lens as the companion to my 15-85 mm which I love , but its to short for them birds at the bottom of my garden or the woods beyond , I'll have to play around and see what works best and get another tripod . or have a large drink to steady the nerves
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Re: 300mm Lens and how to kill it

Yep, tripod and/or fast shutter speeds (you'll get a fast enough shutter speed and be able to use a small aperture on bright days), and practise hand-holding using a firm grip with your hands sort of pushing towards each other for stability, pressing the shutter on a very gentle out-breath. Enjoy your new lens
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Re: 300mm Lens and how to kill it

Suprise, suprise only a few years ago there was no image stabilization and people used longer lenses than that.
Back to basics, shutter speed 1/focal length minimum or a good solid tripod but the world is full of supports - fences, lamposts, seats, car roofs ect., ect.

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Long lenses will test your technique! All of the above advice is good, but for hand holding make sure that you use a shutter speed at least 1.5x the focal length you are using. This means that at 300mm you ought to be at a minimum of 1/500.

Are you sure that the soft images at wide apertures are not the result of camera shake?

If you can brace yourself against a wall/fence/tree/or in the absence of a firm structure to brace against, try to either sit down so you can use a knee to rest the camera on or kneel down and rest an elbow on your knee. Make sure you have a firm footing and take a breath and hold it while taking the picture. Also hold the camera firmly and keep your elbows pressed in against your body.

If you have ever used a rifle or telescope the techniques are similar.

A monopod will also help and is easier to handle than a tripod, but make sure that you can use portrait orientation with it. On my monopod I use a Manfrotto 234 RC2 head that allows a quick flip between landscape and portrait orientation.

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Re: 300mm Lens and how to kill it

If the images are soft with a large aperture due to camera shake, surely they'd be even worse at smaller apertures where I assume the shutter speed would be slower? (OK, I know if doesn't follow).

What about focusing errors which won't be covered by the depth of field when the lens is wide open?

Or the possibility that the times when it has been used wide open the subject has been cloder, which would magnify the camera shake?

All that aside, I have a 400mm f/5.5 Telemegor for my Exakta, and that is clearly soft and exhibits flare unless you stop down by half a stop.

My advice would be to use a tripod; but I never mastered the art of handholding.
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Yep, tripod and/or fast shutter speeds (you'll get a fast enough shutter speed and be able to use a small aperture on bright days), and practise hand-holding using a firm grip with your hands sort of pushing towards each other for stability, pressing the shutter on a very gentle out-breath. Enjoy your new lens
Thanks Charlotte , that was close to Mills and Boon, I cnat use it now I'm all of a quiver .
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I took 'soft photograph' with a large aperture to mean shallow DoF rather than camera shake or focusing issues For bird shots, you want a small aperture to achieve as long a DoF as possible, especially at the 300mm end of this zoom lens, if your bird is filling the frame.
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I took 'soft photograph' with a large aperture to mean shallow DoF rather than camera shake or focusing issues For bird shots, you want a small aperture to achieve as long a DoF as possible, especially at the 300mm end of this zoom lens, if your bird is filling the frame.
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Thanks Charlotte , that was close to Mills and Boon, I cnat use it now I'm all of a quiver .
Mills and Boon?! That bad huh LOL
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If the images are soft with a large aperture due to camera shake, surely they'd be even worse at smaller apertures where I assume the shutter speed would be slower?
Yes at long focal lengths, but not necessarily at the wider end of the zoom range where you might only need around 1/125 and still have an aperture of f8 or thereabouts.
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Re: 300mm Lens and how to kill it

I am not a Canon user but I do have a 300vr and a 400 non vr lens, this is how I get the best from long lenses,400....800....1600....ISO nothing less than 250th hand holding....focus very carefully, not forgetting foreground detail people often slip up here by focusing to infinity! if its poss use a tripod or monopod, practice makes perfect.....all my best pictures with the 400 have been tripod mounted! but I don't use this lens very often......
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I think it's worth pointing out that with long lens can come problems that have nothing to do with your equipment.
As a for instance this afternoon I was looking at the Rotterdam ferry from 7 miles away. This is a very large crop just for demonstration. The distortion is caused by atmospheric turbulence and there is nothing you can do about it. If it was justa slight mist a polariser would have helped if it was around 90degrees to the sun, at least in these latitudes, to the naked eye visibility was fine. On the right day I get a good image even at this distance

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Took this back in 2007 when I used my Sigma SD10 camera with a Sigma 70-300 lens. Not a sharp lens but more a very-good-for-the-money lens (i.e. it was cheap!). It was early morning with the sun just coming up, handheld @ 300mm - so it is possible to get reasonable pics handheld @ 300mm without stabilisers or tripods! Practice, practice, practice!

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If like me you can't always be bothered to lug around a tripod, I have a monopod with a shooting stick head on, this is basically an adjustable Y shape which you simply rest the lens in. Really fast and easy and has the advantage that I can take into buildings where a tripod would not be allowed.

I got mine from Jessops and they are no longer listed on their website but you should be able to track one down easily enough.

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Ok thank you all for your help , Just re cap first thing is to get a monopod , I sold a Manfrotto tripod it was to heavy to lug about, So i'll get a monopod and take Grahams advice and get that head ,
I've been practicing this morning taking shots of anything that stands still long enough , as i'm still grounded with this dam knee replacement ,
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Something like this , shrub is approx. 50 mtr's away , flower is the length of the garden say 180 ft


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Look sharp enough to me!
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Look sharp enough to me!

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I have found breathing techniques I learned on the range with the RAF have helped.....
I use Tripod, Monopod, Walking stick, wall, fence, handy frame from a kids playground, whatever it takes, but for extreme long shots, I always get comfortable myself before I try for the shot.
Take time setting up, take a few test shots, examine EXIF, try different speeds, and be patient.
Take more than just one shot.
The one that works is not always the first shot.....

But most of all, be comfortable...

There is a reason why snipers in the military take long shots in the lying down position (Prone)......

I do not always have Image Stabilisation, I always presume I dont have any, so even when I do, I get a much steadier shot.

There is no instant answer, but getting comfortable first and not standing up has always worked for me.
Even with a tripod.

Also, with tripod, try using the self timer if you have one....
The act of putting a trembling finger on the shutter release can sometimes introduce camera shake?...

I have a 400mil that at full extension, I just cant get a clean shot with the trigger... I have a home brew remote trigger I use that gets a cleaner shot.
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Thank you for your suggestions, and general comments , from your self and everybody else .

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