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Old 02-08-2009, 16:59   #1 (permalink)
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35mb= Film??

I have various cameras ranging from 3mb up to my 50D being 15+ Mb, and been pleased with all of them over the years and obviously film since the middle 60's, anyway we all seem to be chasing ( in digital terms) the elusive digital shot that looks like film, and I read somewhere I think in National Geographic that a camera would have to boast of being 35 megapixels to be in the same catagory as film, is this true?, if so how much longer is the wait, and then will it stop the meg wars, also read film cameras are no longer dirt cheap, do you think people are nostalgic or are searching for the holy grail.................................the perfect picture.
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Old 02-08-2009, 17:13   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 35mb= Film??

Think u mean mp (mega pixels).

I saw a thing where they did a huge, building sized, print from a D700 (12mp) vs film and the opinion was the digital blew the film clean out the water... that said, it was on the Gadget Show so maybe take it with a pinch of salt.

That all said, my film experience is nil so what do i know.
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Old 02-08-2009, 18:09   #3 (permalink)
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Re: 35mb= Film??

I've seen some example shots taken with 35mm film (decent Fuji, I think) and an 8MP Canon (can't remeber that either 20 or30D?).

When enlarged by a huge amount the digital image was better than the film. The grain was worse than the noise.

The author was of the opinion that any decent digital camera over 8MP was better than film.
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Old 02-08-2009, 18:25   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 35mb= Film??

Just when you thought it was safe to back in the (digital vs film) water Kodak release a new film (just under a year ago) and the whole thing is thrown up in the air again

LifeInDigitalFilm: Film Review: Kodak Ektar 100 – 135 Format

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Re: 35mb= Film??

Been shooting film lately, It's my retro phase

If kept to normal sizes, I usually do A4 at most, the film to me is best,but for big crops and such and convenience digital is best.
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Film versus Digital....

Depends on who you ask, and what Forum you read the answers on...

This forum has always been Neutral, but I got my fingers seriously burned by daring one time to post on a "Purist" film oriented forum that I considered my 350D to be far better than the Pentax ME Super that I own.....

I was inexperienced, and now know better... some people will defend "Their pile of rocks" against all...

If you look from the viewpoint that the darkroom and the chemicals therein are totally removed with Digital, and that letting fly with continuous shot to catch action to "Pick the best" out of 20 to 50 shots, you cant do that without spending much time changing the spool on a film camera, and reviewing the results takes minutes rather than hours on a computer, digital has all the cards....

However...
Film is not dead just yet...
Advances in negative technology, and some of the larger format camera's, all bring a certain something that cant be ignored.

This is being written by someone who has advanced from point-and-shoot fuji F410 into Digital, has found the 350D fits nicely into what I understand...

I still have the Pentax... will I ever sell?...
I still have a Box Brownie......

"What is best"?... to me, its what YOU get the best results with.
I get REALLY good results with my Pentax, because I know "Where all the buttons are", and my Father spent a lot of time and patience teaching me...
I am getting better results, as the months go by, with the 350D, partly because of this forum, where I can learn what is the best method, and, afterwards, how to get better results in editing...

I tried to join a local camera club... but they are too much "Get it right in the camera", and I cant shoot like that, as one thing Digital has bought to my style is the ability to see and shoot moments that wont be there by the time I have "Posed" a shot....

Yes, I will spend time setting out a nice landscape shot...
Yesterday, I was shooting my kids on a climbing wall... the best shot of the day is one I didnt know I had until I reviewed the results.

Yes, I would have got that shot with the Pentax, as that has a meaty motor-wind strapped to the base, but being it was in the middle of 20 odd shots of the same subject, I would have been changing spools at the time my second child started climbing, and would probably have missed some decent opportunities that got some good results there.

For me, Digital is far more useful... I can get more shots without stopping, review and edit easier.
In that, personally, I would chose Digital...
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Re: 35mb= Film??

Still got my Pentax Spotmatic SPII with Super Takumar 50mm 1.8 prime lens, and photographed the first 20 odd years of my marriage and bringing up two boys, rarely a failed print, but must admit took to digital photography like a duck to water, but alas don't print as much as I should do, instead I load up my Photodex Gold and make a musical slide show ( no longer than 8 minutes, don't want to bore anybody ) everybody whooos & arhhhhhhhhhhhhaas then I put DVD back in the box & store, exactly what I did with my photo's, nothings changed the cycle go's on.
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Re: 35mb= Film??

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Film versus Digital....


This is being written by someone who has advanced from point-and-shoot fuji F410 into Digital, has found the 350D fits nicely into what I understand...

I still have the Pentax... will I ever sell?...
I still have a Box Brownie......

"What is best"?... to me, its what YOU get the best results with.
I get REALLY good results with my Pentax, because I know "Where all the buttons are", and my Father spent a lot of time and patience teaching me...
I am getting better results, as the months go by, with the 350D, partly because of this forum, where I can learn what is the best method, and, afterwards, how to get better results in editing...

I tried to join a local camera club... but they are too much "Get it right in the camera", and I cant shoot like that, as one thing Digital has bought to my style is the ability to see and shoot moments that wont be there by the time I have "Posed" a shot....

Yes, I will spend time setting out a nice landscape shot...
Yesterday, I was shooting my kids on a climbing wall... the best shot of the day is one I didnt know I had until I reviewed the results.

Yes, I would have got that shot with the Pentax, as that has a meaty motor-wind strapped to the base, but being it was in the middle of 20 odd shots of the same subject, I would have been changing spools at the time my second child started climbing, and would probably have missed some decent opportunities that got some good results there.

For me, Digital is far more useful... I can get more shots without stopping, review and edit easier.
In that, personally, I would chose Digital...
But that is just MY view
Quite right, pick the best tool you have for the job in hand.

Fow me:

Action photography - DSLR every time.

B&W - film every time (for me).

Holiday snaps - compact digital or even a phone if that's all I have.

Portraits - probably DSLR but film SLR for B&W

Landscape and considered shots, probly film (my SLR prime lenses are better than my DSLR zoom lenses).

Well that's my preference for what it's worth.
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Re: 35mb= Film??

I love both for different reasons, digital is the best for quickness and like others say if you want huge prints but there is nothing like loosing yourself to the magic of the darkroom for a day!
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I use a fair amount of film but I scan it all, so a purist I am not!
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