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Old 28-08-2006, 16:30   #1 (permalink)
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Benefits of two monitors?

After upgrading my LCD I am now left with an idle NEC MultiSync 2080UX LCD.

I have flirted with the a two monitor setup but never continued with it......so anyone use two together and what do you consider the benefits?

I know in Photoshop I could have the pallets, tools etc on one monitor and the picture on another but I manage OK all on one........O and the 2080UX will work in portrait orientation.

I could just sell it but doubt I would get a decent price for it.

Any thoughts appreciated.
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Old 28-08-2006, 18:08   #2 (permalink)
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Keep it as a spare? Just in case.
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Re: Benefits of two monitors?

Not knowing how many windows you have open, you can never have enough screen space Last time I was working 2 monitors would have been a god send for Spreasheet work, comparing figures / tables etc.
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Keep it as a spare? Just in case.
That was my initial thought.
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so anyone use two together and what do you consider the benefits?
I use 3. 2 19" widescreen lcd's and a 22" CRT giving a total res of around 4,480 x 1,200 pixels

Personally I'd rather chew my arm off than give up the real estate.

However the 3 screens are less useful for photoshop as I only really use 2 of them. Other development tools I use like Dreamweaver, FlashMX and Delphi however could easily use another screen!


At the end of the day it's down to productivity. You can use PS on a single screen if you want. It just means you do a lot more zooming and scrolling coz your work area is smaller.


However if you've got a spare monitor just gathering dust I'd at least try it for a month or so.

The downsides are electricity usage and desk space.
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Re: Benefits of two monitors?

Cheers OP.

Forgot to mention I too have a 22" CRT on the desk as well

I might just try the LCD in portrait mode and see how it works.
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Re: Benefits of two monitors?

Trouble with 2+ monitors is that it's impossible to go back to 1!
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Re: Benefits of two monitors?

I'd use it in portrait mode for browsing etc and the new one to maintain maximum productivity. As OP said, having the extra screen space would be a god send depending on how you utilise it and what your most used programs are.

Currently I am living with several applications all open at the same time as I am working on the site updates here, Photoshop, my web design console, my ftp client, the web page(s) that I am altering and the admin control section of this website are all open most of the day. Currently I have to tab through these but if I was using a multi monitor setup I could chose which screens to have open on which monitor and it would make my life so much easier.

What programs do you use very regularly and do these get used side by side? If so then the multi monitor route should appeal and give you the perfect use for your now redundant NEC
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Re: Benefits of two monitors?

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What programs do you use very regularly and do these get used side by side? If so then the multi monitor route should appeal and give you the perfect use for your now redundant NEC
At most I have my emails, IE, CS2, and a RAW editor.........not much really apart from I probably have more than one site up in IE.
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Re: Benefits of two monitors?

Well thats more than two screens worth You could have cs/raw editor open on one and your surfing screens/email on the other and they would then not interfer with each other at all?
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Re: Benefits of two monitors?

Suppose it is worth giving it a go for nothing.......and nothing is what I would probably receive if I tried to sell it.
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Re: Benefits of two monitors?

I finally got around to trying dual setup but.........

It appears to be causing a few issues with spectraview on the primary display.

I am just wondering if I would be better to use a seperate video card if my motherboard will accept one (754 socket) .

Any advice appreciated
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Re: Benefits of two monitors?

Two things come to mind here...

What software (if any) are you using for the dual monitor setup?

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Using two graphic cards will/should work on your MB depending on the actual cards however I don't know if it would remove the 'issues' with the spectraview. What are those issues?
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Re: Benefits of two monitors?

That was a quick reply Steve

I have tried dual setup with and without software (UltraMon).

With the second monitor fitted to the video card the Spectraview software will prompt me to obtain the license whenever I try to calibrate the primary monitor.......also the Hardware calibration (monitor LUTs) option is greyed out.......I use the monitors LUT to calibrate the Spectraview monitor instead of the video card.

It is as though it sees the second monitor as the primary one
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Ok I was going to suggest UltraMon but since you have already tried that

I don't/have not used Spectraview but for the second problem is it not possible to calibrate the second monitor on the primary output then move it and the profile to the second settings?
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Re: Benefits of two monitors?

To be honest Steve I am not too concerned about the second monitor being profiled as this will only be used for tools etc.

See the image below.........



Now as I say I profile my main display using the Hardware calibration.........but as you can see this option is greyed out with dual monitor setup.

If I then try to calibrate using the Software option I then get a prompt to obtain the license (which I already have).

The only way around it is to physically unplug the display lead out of the video card (even disabling the 2nd monitor in display properties does not correct the problem).

All very confusing
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I am sorry you have lost me lol

If you can profile the main monitor (when only it is connected) are you saying that it ignores the profile as soon as you connect the second?

If so I would be onto Spectraview to ask them what their solution to the problem is

If not and you are not bothered about profiling the second, then just calibrate the main monitor then plug in the second afterwards. This answer is too simple and I suspect my first understanding to be correct and knowing you, you will have already tried this
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If you can profile the main monitor (when only it is connected) are you saying that it ignores the profile as soon as you connect the second
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If so I would be onto Spectraview to ask them what their solution to the problem is
Just spoke to NEC UK but was advised this would be handled by Colour Solutions in Germany and will be advise me by email

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If not and you are not bothered about profiling the second, then just calibrate the main monitor then plug in the second afterwards. This answer is too simple
That looks like the only answer Steve.
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Does that mean we got there in the end?
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Does that mean we got there in the end?
Er I think so although I have emailed color solutions to enquire as to why the software will not profile a second monitor running off the same PC.

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Er I think so although I have emailed color solutions to enquire as to why the software will not profile a second monitor running off the same PC.
Good, it will be interesting to see what they say

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Good, it will be interesting to see what they say
Just had a phone call from Germany.........

Tech says I should be able to profile second monitor without the license prompt ......they will get back to me if they can find the answer.

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I have a good monitor that I sit in front of according to all of the posture rules, and a junk monitor on a spare bit of my desk out of the way. The main screen has photoshop, and windows explorer running on it, so that I can edit and view my photos. The second screen has SmartFTP, notepad and a second windows explorer on it. My workflow bounces from screen to screen;

I view all the photos I've taken in explorer on screen 1 and the ones I'm going to edit and keep get flung over to a subfolder open in explorer on screen 2.

Then I open photoshop in screen 1 and drag photos from screen 2 directly into the application.

Then I open breezebrowser in screen 1 and make the webpages. Then edit them for comments, again in screen 1 with screen 2 showing the files.

I guess what I'm saying is that I have a workspace (screen 1) and a pile of files (screen 2) just as I do on my real desk.
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HELP

I've just bought a new video card with dual DVI connection.......question is does it matter whiich monitor goes in which ?

Sounds a daft question but..........I thought the primary monitor would go in DVI 1 with the second monitor going in DVI 2 but when checking colour management, it shows that it is using the monitor in DVI 2

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Ignore that there is no profile in the box.

As can be seen Monitor 1 is correctly shown on the tab at the top of the right hand image but shows as using colour management from Monitor 2.
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I really don't know the answer to the first part of your question but from your screen grabs monitor one has no profile assigned (as you stated) and also is NOT being colour managed either

Where are you looking to think that it is using colour management from monitor 2?
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Sorry Steve guess I confused things more by putting the screeny up with no profile in......will do another with what I have now 2 mins
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Image on left is Display 1 inserted into DVI 1

Image on the right is Diplay 2 (my primary one) inserted into DVI 2

As you can see display 1 defaults to the colour profile of display 2 which is fine as this is my primary one.

Now as far as I am aware I can't run two profiles off one graphic card in Windows although I have downloaded Windows profiler which is supposed to be able to let you do so

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Re: Benefits of two monitors?

Well after buying a dual DVI video card it would appear that only one port supports DDC/CI

Anyway the Color Applet has saved the day...........

I now calibrate display I (Spectraview 2090) then display 2 which I then slighty fine tune to look the same as display 1.

I then create a short cut for Color Applet adding "/L" in the target command line.........this then auto assigns the profiles to each display whenever Windows is started.

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I am glad you got it all sorted in the end and am really sorry I was unable to help
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I am glad you got it all sorted in the end and am really sorry I was unable to help

You did.......you continually had an input in to a situation that was difficult over the net
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