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Old 02-06-2014, 12:18   #1 (permalink)
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My older camera's , like my 20d's. I use two, i would like to know what the rules or information about using larger cards. I have 8 gig and no problems. I want to go bigger,,oh well. I read that from about the 400D and up you can use 32 gig cards with no problem. Also a 64 gig on my 1D would work wonders for me. What do you all say for memory as I would like to just change and use cards for a trip coming up. Maybe back-up to a stick.
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Boofers, I am still using a 20D and only have 1gb & 2gb cards I find this better as I can change a card for each occasion and the pictures are in manageable amounts and easily found. E.g. a 2gb holds about 200 images a 16gb would hold 1600 images, an awful lot to sort through. These cards are more for large 20mb cameras. Just my thoughts.
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It is a hardware issue Boofers. The computer in the cameras can only use up to X GB (or mb!) cards and trying a bigger capacity usually results in the camera sulking and not doing anything. As technology has progressed the hardware has also advanced so allowing bigger cards to be used.
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For run of the mill photography I use 8gb cards, if I'm at sporting events I use 16gb cards and still have to swap cards (24mb camera with 12fps when needed) Generally use as small as I need because even 16gb is a lot to loose in one go
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I should say, I think I have an eight gig in one of my 20D's. I know the other day I wAs just about out of pictures, I must have a four gig in that. "Note to self, write down what I have presently in camera." Problem being tho is if I format a card like a 16 gig in the 20, will I loose storage if it only formats to a certain space. I would hope that I could reformat in a newer camera and it will return the space. These are the problems I have seen on search's on the web. What is really important is what is the largest card I can put in my 400d. On my trip I will use this and my 1d mk4. Sounds silly but invest in new cards and maybe use older ones to up grade the 20d's. They work great for what I use them for.
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Hi Boofers, I use 2 x 8 gig @ 400x write speed cards in my 1Ds 111 ( simultaneously recording each image) and that gives me up to 400 "exposures". I would never take that many images in a day and when I get home I transfer them to two hard drives and format the cards ready for the next outing. I do always carry 2 reserve cards ( 1 CF & 1 SD) but that is in case of a problem not for capacity.
For me there is no point in larger cards, if I was going on a holiday of a lifetime I would take more cards, then if there was a problem I would not loose all the images.
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Yes, "holiday". I haven't been anywhere for 5 years, looking back at a two week trip, I used 12 gigs + or ~ and Used two laptops. Now that is easy, backs ups to all the drive space. This trip is a month maybe an extra week and I want to go smarter and with less hardware. I have a newer 120 gig laptop,,the wifes and it has all her stuff she needs so the storage drops like half . But with a fast laptop a storage stick of a few would work good, ? Does this sound like a solution, a few extra cards then back up to some sticks. I have never done this type of storage before and there is always a better way. The wife shoots J-pegs so I don't worry about her. I also can use two cards in the 1D. If we make the trip, it is to the other side of the pond for us, we have 6 grandkids and a half dozen long lost cousins. I will most likely shoot 24 gigs of pictures a day between the two cameras. I am quite excited
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I am not sure that it is a good idea to rely on one large card. I still have a 20D IR but manage with two 1 GByte and one 4 Gbyte cards. I also have three 8 G Byte cards for my 5D2. When on a longer holiday with lots to Photograph, I take my Epson storage device as well and can download cards to that for back up. As far as I know professional photographers swap cards during shoots just in case of a card failure so you do not lose all of your photos.
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Hi Dave, Yes I've seen your idea in many places. I am at home and looked at my IR kit cameras and thats where I noticed the problem. it was my 50D which I use for color pictures for IR mixing and for my film Lenses. It has a 4 gig card,,my 20D has an 8 gig card for 902 pictures and the 400D has a 16 gig for 1546 pictures. No problem with the cards now as I just needed to sort it all out. If I can go with a 32 gig card in the 400D and two 32 gig cards in my 1D mk4 I should be OK. I like the idea of just loading them thru my wifes laptop onto some sort of storage device to be decided later. I might go with a couple of 64 gigs and not change them out just load them off to another storage device. glad I got to think this out, just never worked it out. Thanks all
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Dave Canon I am with you on this one example mate went up to Simpson desert trip went out bought one big memory card and not sure what happened but card failed no shops for over 1000k lucky a mate had a spare and he was able to lend him one.

this was a trip of a life time and it was almost a total disaster .

The price of 8 gigs here in Australia are round $10 to $15.00 easy to have a couple in the bag

I have 2 x8 SD and couple of 2gig from previous cameras

Just think when there first come out the small ones for FUJUI were $30 for 256 meg and $90 for a 1 gig but the prices are so cheap
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Technically, if your camera will format cards to FAT32, then you're not restricted to less than 4GB (the max for FAT16 - cameras before 2003) but then there's the camera manufacturer limitation - for instance the Canon 20D is restricted to 8GB.

Physical card-wise the biggest PITA was SD cards as SD max is/was 2GB (crucially, including the cardreaders - caught me out a few times) whilst SDHD is 32GB, SDXC is 2TB

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Hi Mark, thank for the conformation on the 8 gig for the 20D. I will deal with it at no problem. I have used a 32 gig in my 1D sense it came into my little hands,,,,,,,**. I grown very found of it. San Disk extreme III. I have to have a new habit, so I have a external 80 gig I have used for years, a nice won, has anyone herd of monster storage at one TB. .? What ever I come up with, it will be two, one for a back up. I have lost pictures once, able to recover less then half. All this conversation has helped me come up to par and I feel confident I will come up with a good solution, I have USB 3 and thunderbolt on the wifes Laptop. It has been hard finding compatible storage. I have a san disk cruiser and had to format it on a windows machine, but now with the changes to apple the fat 32 format will erase all the information san disk had put on this stick. my apple at the time formatted to fat 32 but didn't wipe it clean, thats what I want, no information for computers to follow. This has all been very enlightening. If you know about monster storage I would like to know. A couple of TB devices would work just fine.
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Over here there are 1TB usb drives coming onto the market, but they are quite expensive. Portable HDD's of 1TB are more common and cheaper.
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Graham, I have been watching you guys for years, then the pictures my kids send me I almost can't sit still. The extra space couldn't hurt. This is really the happiest I've been in years about taking time to get out.
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Boofers, I am still using a 20D and only have 1gb & 2gb cards I find this better as I can change a card for each occasion and the pictures are in manageable amounts and easily found. E.g. a 2gb holds about 200 images a 16gb would hold 1600 images, an awful lot to sort through. These cards are more for large 20mb cameras. Just my thoughts.
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Hi Colin, I love my 20D's and use the one my wife gave up to me. I think the camera takes a beautiful picture and I have no plans on removeing them from my working camera set. I do look for a good used 30D for a steal of a price but thats mostly for fun. My first stop on the trip for next year is northern Ireland, then we have to go to Wales and the Isle of man. Jump the water to the mainland and spend a few weeks with the kids. My Daughter is a great photographer who has worked in china with a photo group. She will take good care of me. Maybe I'll get to bump into you, but like I say it is still a ways off. Cheers.
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Hi Boofers, re your mega storage query, I use a Lacie big quadra which has 2 1Tb discs configured to RAID so they both have the same files on them. (There is also a twin 2 Tb version.)
I have everything that is on my computer on the Lacie, even the O.S.and programs. The theory being that if my computer suffered a total crash I can just remove one of the Lacie HDs and plug it in the computer and carry on. ( both are pull and change) I save my RAW files to it but my TIFFs are on another 2 external HDs.
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Hi Charles, I finely settled on back up cards for my cameras as I had not a one. Then for the laptop a bus powered G-Drive 1TB. I have an 80 gig with an ac power supply for laptops, but powered on the buss with a desk top. Couldn't resist the laptop buss power. The hard part turned out to get the kind of cards I use. Some a good price an some not. But now I am thinking of using my gear as I know it and that has made me happy. This was a good thread as I looked at all the hardware everyone talked about. One less thing to get out of the way, and a big surprise on how much pressure it put on me.
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Glad you got it sorted Boofers, and I hope you have a great holiday with lots of images. Shame you are not coming to my area this side of the pond.
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Thanks Charles, because of rain my son says we might want to change the months we go channel hoping. I can trace relatives back to the 900's in the Essex area. We have plenty of time as of now to look ahead as I need instructions from my sister, (good ole sisters, they always can help) to point me in generational directions. That would set me to cross over to wales and then we want to go up to Scotland and leave from Dublin. It will all change next month probably but the looping around London has always been part of getting lost. I have a good feeling that We will be just fine and the kind members here will chip in a guideline here and there. I couldn't be happier and feel good about this all now that I have my memory (camera), it really was in dis array.
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It is a hardware issue Boofers. The computer in the cameras can only use up to X GB (or mb!) cards and trying a bigger capacity usually results in the camera sulking and not doing anything. As technology has progressed the hardware has also advanced so allowing bigger cards to be used.
I have now used all my new cards in the cameras they were bought for. All work fine. My fears have left for now, the cards are faster then the ones I replaced, but not to much faster. I found that buying cards that aren't the newest and fastest might cost more money. I don't know a lot about having to fast of a card in your camera, I was happy before and happier now. A little spare card just incase you need it is a good feeling. I have only run out a few times . In my 1d booklet it says if you take movies you should use a smart card and the flash for pictures so not to mix them. Easy to switch, my one other camera only has one card for evetything concerning pictures. Anyway alls ago and they seem to be good cards in good shape.
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