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Old 06-09-2007, 10:39   #1 (permalink)
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Cancelled my Fotolia Account - Are the Micro Stock Agencies harming Pro Photography ?

After selling 27 photos via Fotolia, making a huge sum of around £5 I have come to the conclusion

a) I've been selling myself a tad short
b) I've been harming the pro photographers market by encouraging cheap market rates

As such today, I have removed all my images from Fotolia & requested for the account to be closed. I will be taking all my decent shots to Alamy, where selling just 1 image will equate to potentially 5+ years worth of earnings from these Micro Stock Agencies.

So what do others think ? Do you agree with the above or do you feel there is a place for the micro stock agencies ?
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Old 06-09-2007, 11:12   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Cancelled my Fotolia Account - Are the Micro Stock Agencies harming Pro Photograp

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Are we selling ourselves short with Micro Stock Agencies?
Defo! My pics are worth thousands - just that no one else thinks so! But I await The Call which'll come any day real soon!

But I do think that these Agencies are getting the shots for a song. Different from the usual "amateurs flooding the market with poor quality" - and worse, as this is quality at a fraction of worth.

TBH, having seen the computer and TV industries decimated by 'market forces' where price is upheld over standards/quality, I'm unsurprised by what is happening to the photo market
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Old 06-09-2007, 11:15   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Cancelled my Fotolia Account - Are the Micro Stock Agencies harming Pro Photograp

Couldn't agree more, and sites like the Beeb don't help by inviting people to send in pics for free and effectively relinquishing copyright.

I'm waiting to be discovered.
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Re: Cancelled my Fotolia Account - Are the Micro Stock Agencies harming Pro Photograp

I tend to agree about selling oneself short, as you have shown I think very few will do this for the money. I suspect many who do, do it for the fun/kudos. It's also a low calorie way to learn about what might sell in stock without having to overcome the hurdles of the mainstream agencies. On that basis there may be a place for them. I also can see how it will, in a few cases, hurt the pros. It's not for me but whilst I don't take photographs for the money a little money helps fund my addic... hobby.
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Re: Cancelled my Fotolia Account - Are the Micro Stock Agencies harming Pro Photograp

Agree 100%, I read everyones thoughts on stock agencies before I took the plunge and decided that right from the off I had to have the confidence to think my stuff is worth it.

Even with the stock agencies like PD and Alamy i keep thinking hang on thier still taking what 20/35% but then you do get a lot more coverage.

I do think most of my living is going to come from other sources , I spent 5 hours contacting mags etc yesterday and late last night about 10pm lol I got a yes and will be covering a few events for a regional mag, not a huge amount but the getting noticed is 1/2 the battle i think, the other 1/2 is all the administration!

I do feel like the market is a bit flooded, every second person i speak to say they do photography on the side, yet those who regularly post on here for example and should be paid for some stunning images dont , the standard needs to stay raised, sorry bit of track there.
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Re: Cancelled my Fotolia Account - Are the Micro Stock Agencies harming Pro Photograp

I switched over to Alamy.. in the process of dumping my massive image collection into their system.. (slowly but surely of course).

Photographer's Direct and MyLoupe are two others.. neither one will touch your collection if you're represented by microstock sites.

Something interesting to note is that Getty is now offering low resolution images (web resolution, probably measurable in kb) for under $100.. guess that's their response to remain competitive with microstock.
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Re: Cancelled my Fotolia Account - Are the Micro Stock Agencies harming Pro Photograp

After reading the blurb on PD, i have also decided that, for photographers, microstock sites are not cool.

For the buyer though...Microstock must be a dream surely? Excuse me if this is a stupid question, but why would any buyer pay £40 for an image from PD, when they could get a similar, royalty FREE image from Fotalia for $1?
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Re: Cancelled my Fotolia Account - Are the Micro Stock Agencies harming Pro Photograp

I imagine that similar discussions were held between weavers, when they met down at the tavern after a hard day's throwing of the shuttle.

The truth is that market economies drive down prices, that's inevitable as gravity. Prices are only held high by scarcity and with digital photography readily available, the scarcity factor is pretty much history. The only bolster against low price is salesmanship. Persuade the people with the money that your product is magically better than the, apparently identical, alternative and you may yet score big, as Leica have done for years in the camera market.

Let's face it, what do any of those highly paid actors and singers have that ten thousand of their starving brethren lack? Salesmanship my friends.

Still, if you lack that, you can yet become a millionaire as a photographer. Just start with two million.

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