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Old 05-08-2008, 12:18   #1 (permalink)
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Canon 40D Battery

Canon D40 body has arrived and the battery is on charge.

So first question. does anyone know of a reliable source for compatible batteries as I would like a spare, but the Canon original cost in the region of £50 and this seems rather steep to me.

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Re: Canon D40 Battery

I assume you mean a Canon 40d. The D40 is a Nikon. - I still get confused so you are not the only one.

I cannot help you directly as I have not got a spare battery for my 40d camera. However there was a thread a while ago when someone bought a battery from Hong Kong that was clearly a fake - they thought it was a genuine Canon battery not an alternative make.

In view of that I would stay with a UK seller.

I have had a 40d for about 8 months now and have never run out of battery power on a single days shooting. This includes some days on holiday when I took over 500 pictures. At the end of that the camera was still showing the battery more than half full.

Li ion batteries do have a shelf life however. This is a quote from

Lithium-ion battery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"A unique drawback of the Li-ion battery is that its life span is dependent upon aging from time of manufacturing (shelf life) regardless of whether it was charged, and not just on the number of charge/discharge cycles. So an older battery will not last as long as a new battery due solely to its age, unlike other batteries. This drawback is not widely published"

I am not suggesting that you do not need a spare but I decided that I did not and it has worked out so far.
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However there was a thread a while ago when someone bought a battery from Hong Kong that was clearly a fake - they thought it was a genuine Canon battery not an alternative make.
Might be mine that you are thinking of... but the battery I bought was purchased online but was a from a UK Canon Reseller not from Hong Kong

Will see if I can find the link.

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So first question. does anyone know of a reliable source for compatible batteries
There are quite a few decent retailers for compatible batteries. I've used Keene Electronics with no problems. They are UK based, but I have no doubt that their products are sourced elsewhere.
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Re: Canon D40 Battery

I've bought BP-511 clones from 7dayshop in the past, and they've performed well.

2 for £9.49!

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The reviews seem OK.
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Might be mine that you are thinking of... but the battery I bought was purchased online but was a from a UK Canon Reseller not from Hong Kong
My short term memory is not as good as it was - I am putting it down to old age
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Re: Canon D40 Battery

Thanks guys have gone for the 2 for a tenner option, no doubt they will not be needed but as we are going on a month long cruise, down the east coast of the USA, I felt it better at that price to be safe than sorry.

It is amazing this photography game, you need a bag like the tardis, my next decision, given that the 40D is a reasonably heavy camera and I will hopefully be using a 70/300 IS lens to take scenic shots of the fall throughout October... Is should i buy a decent lightweight mono pod.

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Re: Canon D40 Battery

I'd get a tripod for landscapes as it's steadier and there's no issue with the lack of mobility.

Monopods are more useful for being easy to move, so macros with insects, panning motorsports, etc
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Re: Canon D40 Battery

It could be handy, but I'm not sure it's worth adding anything else to the Tardis.

If you expect that your shots will be mostly scenic and landscapes in good light at wide angle, you should be able to get a high enough shutter speed to avoid camera shake without a monopod.

However, one of sod's many laws is that, if you don't buy one, you'll wish you had.

If you do, I'd get a carbon fibre one to keep the weight down. I'm a Velbon fan but Giottos and Manfrotto are also good.
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Re: Canon D40 Battery

I have my Trusty Velbon Sherpa 435 tripod, suppose i Could use that, problem being with cruising of course, the ship delivers many people in the same place at the same time so tripod legs can become a nuisance to other travellers.

Perhaps my bean bag will be a better option,

Had a catalogue delivered last week, Silky offering guided tours of the famous Yorkshire Dales, how come there was no trip to silkstone common
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We try to keep Silkstone Common a secret. It isn't difficult.

I appreciate Mark's comments about a tripod, but I reckon it could be a flippin' nuisance especially with all the other folks tripping over it. A bean bag is a good idea - just find a steady shoulder to rest it on.
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Re: Canon D40 Battery

I've recently bought a Velbon UP-4000 monopod - very light and compact and only £22 in Jessop's, so probably cheaper on the net.
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OK, So I think I would find a Monopod handy on my trip, I will be on and off coaches and taxis or standing on the deck of a ship. but I don't know, having never used one. What to look for.
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Apart from weight and I suppose about 5 foot in height (I am 6 Foot) what else should i be looking for, what kind of head etc. If indeed I need one for my kind of use, although panning for birds could be handy i suppose
For instance how does the Velbon 4000 stack up,( your help here please dabhand) what head would you fit, what kind of foot is best,

Any info would be appreciated
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Re: Canon D40 Battery

I have a 40d and a Manfrotto monopod. I do not remember which one and as I am at work I cannot check. It has three extendable legs which is fine. The only head I have on it allows the camera to be turned into the portrait position.

I have not used it that much but over the last week end I tried it with a relatively heavy Sigma 150-500 mm lens. I did not miss the pan and tilt head of my tripod at all.

You mentioned birds. I spent a long tome try to get pictures of fast flying terns at relatively close range. I have lots of pics of very sharp backgrounds with white blurs in the foreground. When I did get the camera to focus on the birds I was quite pleased with the results. However in the end I found in this situation the monopod was too limiting and ended up hand holding the camera.

For insects though I was very pleased with the handling of the camera and monopod. All in all I think you will find one very useful and you do not have to take it everywhere you go. It is certainly much easier than a tripod.

I also realised that in certain circumstances mine would make a very effective self defence weapon
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For instance how does the Velbon 4000 stack up,( your help here please dabhand) what head would you fit, what kind of foot is best,

Any info would be appreciated
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I selected the Velbon UP-400 after compring it with two Manfrottos, both of which were bigger, heavier and dearer than the Velbon. It was the only one that passed my simple test of extending it to the maximum, then putting moderate pressure on it. Both of the Manfrottos slipped down - not much - but there was movement that I could not stop by tightening the leg locks.

I should say that i prefer the lever type leg locks rather than the screw type as I find the clips much quicker to set, adjust or undo. The screw type might have a firmer grip. All of the ones i compared had lever locks. Four section ones will be smaller when closed, three section ones might be a bit taller, have fewer legs to extend, so are quicker to put up, but are bigger when closed down.

The standard foot supplied has a rounded rubber grip that screws up to reveal a metal spike.

As regards using a head, you don't really need a ball head or a pan/tilt head unless you want to take shots of things low down and very close to you or (for instance) up a wall or tree that is close to you, or, possible more commonly, to enable portrait orientation. However, Manfrotto do a special monopod head that does just that - quickly flips from landscape to portrait. I have one of these and it is very useful. It is the Manfrotto 234 and costs around £12-£15. You can also get it with the RC2 quick release plate for about £20 and this is the one I've got.

You can pay £230 for a top of the range Gitzo carbon fibre monopod, although I'm sure there are others that are cheaper, but unless you are using it a lot it might not be worth it. I think my Velbon is exceptional value, but may not be tall enough for you. Best if you can get your hands on a few to be able to give them a thorough check out.
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Height is the problem I've always had with monopods - and tripods too to some extent, although here you're not trying to crouch down and hold the camera steady at the same time. It's perhaps not so bad with Live View, but otherwise, for comfort and ease of holding it steady, the viewfinder needs to be at eye height.

The alternative is to use an angle finder so you can look down at the viewfinder, and that's a good (if rather expensive) solution.
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Thanks again guys , I will ruminate on this for a while, it seems that the height is important and the only one I have found at about 6 foot, is carbon and priced accordingly, Price is not the be all though and I have a a couple of months to mooch around before deciding
Mind you AO..QUOTE....... also realised that in certain circumstances mine would make a very effective self defence weapon......... That is not to be sneezed at in some of the places cruise ships berth in.
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You don't need the monopod to be your height - just long enough for the viewfinder to be at eye level. If you fit a head to the monopod, that will also raise the camera slightly.
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Canon D40 body has arrived and the battery is on charge.

So first question. does anyone know of a reliable source for compatible batteries as I would like a spare, but the Canon original cost in the region of £50 and this seems rather steep to me.

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Duracell direct camera batteries £ 19.39 for the EOS 40D. Post Free
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We just got back from the Nevis, St. Kitts & St. Croix. I had to recharge everyday. Maybe it was because of the heat and humidity. Total pictures for two weeks 563. Didn't want to ruin the vacation for FTWB ya know. ;-)

I did buy two Canon batteries when I bought my 40D. After spending that much for a camera I didn't want to skimp on batteries.
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