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Old 02-10-2006, 08:15   #1 (permalink)
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Card Reader Query

Hi,

I have just purchased a 23 in 1 card reader.
It came with no user instructions and since I have never used one before I would welcome some help with a particular point.
What is the sequence when attaching the reader to the PC ...do I insert the card into the reader before I conect it to the PC ...or after?
Furthermore ...is there a specific sequence when removing the card/device?
Any tips on the use of the card reader would be very welcome.
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Old 02-10-2006, 08:28   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Card Reader Query

doesn't matter m8.

just remember to either eject the card or stop the usb device IF you've written to it. If you have just read from it then it won't matter although windows may moan.

Also I believe XP has a quick removal feature that lets you unplug at will without having to stop it. How u set that up I dunno. I don't use XP.
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Also I believe XP has a quick removal feature that lets you unplug at will without having to stop it. How u set that up I dunno. I don't use XP.
I run XP and I've never found this feature, OP. To be on the safe side I always stop a device using the icon on the toolbar. Only takes a couple of clicks.
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Old 02-10-2006, 09:02   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Card Reader Query

yeah it doesn't hurt to do it the proper way

For a technical explanation, the USB port uses a write buffer to speed up writing to the card. This means that all the data is not actually written when it says it is. The last little bit is still in system memory. When you eject the card, or stop the card reader windows writes the rest of the data to the card then lets you remove it. The option in xp disables this write buffer meaning that data is written when it says it's written - this then lets you unplug when you feel like it. They call it "Quick Removal" or something like that.

I think you go into the device manager, go to the properties of the card reader, select the options and tick "optimise for quick removal".
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This advice for XP users is fine but I am still a lowly user of 98se
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You are spot on OP. Thanks...never knew about that.
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Re: Card Reader Query

Windows 98SE? You may experience problems, but probably be OK. USB was not fully implemented in 98SE, so relies on drivers. If your reader demands a driver then you need to make sure there is a 98SE driver available.

Best bet is to try it and see - and worry about drivers only if you need to!
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Re: Card Reader Query

slight pedantic correction there... usb is fully supported on 98 (It's 95 it doesn't work very well in) but is more of a pain because of the requirement for you to locate the drivers. The difference between 98, 2k/xp is that the latter has the drivers bundled.

One point tho. With 98 make sure you "stop" the usb card reader before removing it. 98 is much less graceful about these devices being removed willy nilly

Any card reader u buy should have a cd with the drivers for 98 on it. If not, give a little shout here and we can probably dig out some drivers. As far as I know all USB removable storage devices use the exact same driver.
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Re: Card Reader Query

Thanks for the replies so far.
I bought the card reader from Serif and it came with no CD and no instructions.
I contacted them and they advised me as to where I could download the drivers from their site ...which I have done.
All seems well so far although I have not yet tried to upload anything. My original query was as to the sequence in which you do this.

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My original query was as to the sequence in which you do this.



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doesn't matter m8.

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My original query was as to the sequence in which you do this.Ches
As OP said...it doesn't matter - connect your reader and then insert card is technically correct. It might be better to select a different drive before you disconnect just in case your file browser wonders where the files have gone and starts hunting.
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Re: Card Reader Query

Slightly off topic but does Windows 98 support USB2 or is it just USB1. Just wondering thats all?
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USB2 is in the hardware. It's not OS dependant. However a PC which comes with 98 is unlikely to have USB2 ports
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