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Old 02-10-2006, 15:20   #1 (permalink)
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Clone or Spot heal in PsCS2

Just wondering what people use to on there images. I always used to use the rubber stamp tool in photoshop, because originally that was all there was, i then moved to the Spot healing brush as it seemed to do a good job of getting rid of unwanted artefacts and blending. This however was short lived as i noticed that where the Spot Healing brush was going so to was a blurring of the pixels.
I am now still a Rubber Stamper as it works and you can tell it 'how' you want it ot work rather than just telling it 'where' you want it to work.
What are other users experiences with these tools, are there other magical plug-ins on offer that do a better job that you use?
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Old 02-10-2006, 21:54   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Clone or Spot heal in PsCS2

Noticed you had no replies so all I can add is that I use the Clone tool mostly.
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Old 02-10-2006, 22:15   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Clone or Spot heal in PsCS2

Thanks for trying to make me feel better stepheno...lol!
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Re: Clone or Spot heal in PsCS2

I have seen many tutorials where they use the heal tool well, but by the time I get around to using it, I always struggle Another cloner here
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Re: Clone or Spot heal in PsCS2

Cloner here too! But then I tend to use CS over CS2, as quicker
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Re: Clone or Spot heal in PsCS2

i use both. i really depends on what it is im trying to remove, the spot healing brush is excellent on facial work while the clone stamp is the biz for larger objects ( like whole people) lol

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Re: Clone or Spot heal in PsCS2

It is interesting to hear that not many people use the spot healer. However it does depend on what you are using it for, I have found myself using it in the same way that FionaB uses it....on peoples faces, but thats a subject i don't shoot too often (i am going to try to do more portraiture).
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Re: Clone or Spot heal in PsCS2

Try the patch tool. Its patchariffic.

First thing that came up on google.

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Re: Clone or Spot heal in PsCS2

i dont really like the patch tool, it has its merits true but unless the part u are patching is completely seperate you get bleed from the surroundings, event he etdges of the image.

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Re: Clone or Spot heal in PsCS2

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Re: Clone or Spot heal in PsCS2

The spot healing brush is good for small spots in otherwise similar areas such as a face or the sky, make the brush just a smidgen larger than the spot and dab. The healing brush is similar, stay away from edges and it works wonders.

Of course, with all these brushes work on a new blank layer and select "Sample all Layers" that way it's easier to tweak the results later. I sometimes find it useful to feather the cloned area or reduce the opacity slightly to get rid of any unnatural edges.
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Re: Clone or Spot heal in PsCS2

I tend to use the clone tool to replace colours in an image, for example to remove spots on someones face then use the healing brush to add the texture. Not sure if this is what it was designed for but its eems to work quite well.
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Re: Clone or Spot heal in PsCS2

I've only got CS1 so I tend to use clone most of the time as I can never get heal to work for anything than a small spot!
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Re: Clone or Spot heal in PsCS2

Some good techniques, cheers for the insight into what everyone else does. I'm gonna have a go at trying some and see if maybe i can get them to work there magic on my pictures (unlikely). Reckon my best bet is to buy some Pec Pads and be done with it.
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Re: Clone or Spot heal in PsCS2

I have to say, along with what others have said, it is not merely about which one I fancy using but which one will do the job for the occasion.

There are various ways to remove unwanted artifacts and they all work extremely well for the things they were designed to do. Here are just some of them...

Clone tool (rubber stamp): great for removing items when you have a clean area to clone from and when for textured areas where joins can be hidden to the point of being invisible.

Healing tool: great for things like spots. It is designed for very small areas including dust, scratches, sensor debris, etc. Works extremely well on plain areas but can leave tell-tale blur lines so it's worth examining the area by clicking on 'Actual pixels' to look in close.

Patch tool: my personal favourite whenever I can but not when the artefact to be removed borders an area I want to keep. You can still use it but you need a very careful selection of the area and you might need to do it two or three times to get rid of any smearing.

Dust & Scratch removal tool (under Filters>Noise: absolutely hate it myself! It is ok on very flat areas but basically it takes out any sharp detail in the process so is best used on a selected area only and even then only when other methods are not appropriate. If you can get a good sky selection, it can be useful for removing noise in an azure sky but still other tools that are better.

Smart Blur: Better than dust and scratch tool for flat areas of sky and so forth.

As I said, these are only some of the tools available for removing objects but when it comes to removing large things, the clone and the patch tool are definitely the best. Get used to trying the patch tool first. It will usually be best as even if it does leave a small smeared area, this can then be tidied up with the clone tool. Because the patch tool matches itself to the surrounding area, it is more effective than cloning very often.

'More than one way to skin a cat' but also 'the right tool for the right job' :o)

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