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Old 17-04-2011, 07:41   #1 (permalink)
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More drama. I discovered last night that my CF card could not be recognised in my Canon 7D. Looked inside the CF slot on the camera and discovered on of the central brass pins in the camera was bent!!!! I use good quality cards that are kept in their plastic sleeves when not in use to avoid damage. Tempted to try a repair but having read a number of sites (saw yours FionaB) on this issue Canon have in the past repaired most if still under warranty. I am very careful with my gear and having just ungraded from a camera that used SD I am v angry. Yes I know I could have bought a Nikon but I suffered pixel envy. Seriously though is this an issue for other camera owners.

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Old 17-04-2011, 08:07   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Compact flash Issues

Sorry to hear! OH was looking at the 60D with a view to upgrading and was put off by it's taking SD over CF cards - and neither of us have ever had probs in over half a dozen CF'd cameras (not that I'd mind, especially as I like the LCD on the 60D and I'd inherit all the GBs of CFs she's got! )
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Re: Compact flash Issues

that has to be my biggest fear is the pin issue with the 7D, i dont know how it happens to be honest, as one would think that a teeny bit of dust shouldnt be enough to bend one.

fingers crossed they fix it and fast Russell.
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Old 17-04-2011, 09:38   #4 (permalink)
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It's ironic, I upgrade to an older but more professional camera (550D > 7D) and have this issue. One professional photographers website said he lost his 5D mk2 the same way but in his case as there were no other issues Canon replaced free of charge within 7 days, so I am off to Jacob's tomorrow. I will let people know how it goes just in case. BTW I have followed the manuals directions on how to insert a CF card and my point is why did only one pin bend????. I only use 8gig card in case one malfunctions and I don't lose the lot and as I shot in RAW and JPEG it doesn't last long

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Re: Compact flash Issues

I'm forever changing cards as I usually put 2GB card in for around and about @ home (but never anything but RAW only) - until I go out and then 4 or 8GB - but I still have a few 128 and 256MB (but they tend to be used in my Sigmas). Personally, i think it's just down to bad luck - maybe a card that has a pinhole just off a touch or maybe a weak pin

It's a bit like changing lenses (without the severe downside, to be sure!) - some are forever having probs with sensor dust and so restrict lens changes, whereas I'm forever changing lenses and rarely suffer significant dust issues (though I do clean them every now and then)
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Old 17-04-2011, 10:00   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Compact flash Issues

Upside no new pics. Downside for you guys I have lots of unprocessed to go through and inflict on you. On a serious note I am glad it didn't happen later in the year because I am trying to book into a City and Guilds for digital photography. Bit difficult without a camera
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Old 18-04-2011, 14:55   #7 (permalink)
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Re: Compact flash Issues

Camera delivered to Jacob's in New Oxford Street who stated outright that the damage would not be covered under warranty. I handed over a stack of references from others who have had the same issue and who Cannon world wide have fixed free of charge. Without of course admitting there is an issue. I made a number of points. Why was only the middle pin bent??? and what is the point of making a camera like this seem almost bullet proof only for it to become a paperweight by a £20 CF Card. They also say five weeks when most others have had a turn round in 7 days. I will let you know. Angry from Burnham!
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Sorry to hear about this Russell.

Change mine quite often on my 50D and 20D - and even my old 10D. Not had this problem to date.

And I hope touch wood it does not occur.

I'd of been tempted to ask for a refund and gone elsewhere with that turnaround time if it was relatively new.
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Re: Compact flash Issues

It is classified a B stock ( I was told damaged box so could not be sold as A Stock) apparently they do this sort of thing at large exhibitions (Focus on Imaging), was purchased on the 7.3.2011 with a credit card and carries a 12 month manufacturers warranty. I have emailed Jacobs HQ and vented and I will be emailing cannon soon. After that I will be revising consumer law. As mentioned there is a wealth of similar complaints out there where Canon have done the decent thing so I will wait and see. Regards
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Update. To date received an email acknowledgement and the fact it was being passed to a Jacobs Regional Manager but nothing since. Fortunately have access to another camera or I would be going stir crazy
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Hope that it gets sorted quickly Russell.

I've lived with CF cards right from the start of my digital journey with my Nikon Coolpix 885 compact and (touch wood) have had no problems. However, I am VERY careful when inserting a card into a camera or a card reader. I always ensure that the card is moving smoothly in the guides and allow the card to initially seat on the pins before lightly pressing in the centre of the card.

I have never noticed it, and I would expect that the cards are made to tight tolerances, but I wonder if there is any possibility that the card was a bit 'loose' in the guides and this caused the problem?
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Like Dabs, I've been using CF for a very long time (Since my very first digicam - a Nikon 990). The only time I came across this problem was a few years ago, with a Jessops multicard reader. In that case, I found that using a very small screwdriver to bend the pins roughly straight, then gently inserting and removing a card several times, solved the problem. I still use that reader several times a week and have had no further trouble.
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Update - Contacted by Jacobs (New Oxford Street) to inform me that my 7D had been repaired and the internal CF reader replaced by Canon (UK) at no cost. Apparently this is a one time, goodwill, repair of this issue and isn't covered under the conditions of the warranty. I have yet to collect my camera but am so happy. Would it have bee done without me making a huge fuss. I can't say but considering the number of bank holidays we have had recently and the end result the service from Jacobs and Canon has been fantastic. My advice if you think its wrong it normally is so fight for your rights and hopefully you will get the right result. As an asside all the comments above suggest be very careful but I am nervous. Maybe I will get a quality 16gig card and leave it in the camera, put up with the slow down load times and download from my camera. Regards and thanks for your patience

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Re: Compact flash Issues

Great news Russell

I am aware of the potential of a bent pin, but it has not stopped me from changing cards when necessary, or using a card reader Easy for me to say, I know.

If you decide to go down the 16GB card permanantly in the camera route - I'll buy your Lexar card reader!
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This system relies on a degree of precision to ensure everything lines up, the pins, the guide and the card needs to also be manufactured accurately. This is another reason why a cheap card may be false economy and it may not be manufactured to the same tolerance.

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I guess it was sods law. Always use quality cards so one of those things. Really lucky to have a back up camera so can't wait to pick it up.
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Concluding entry. 7d now back with it's owner all new and shiny. Thanks to Canon (UK) and Jacobs. The lesson is fight for your rights and you may get a result. Regards
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I have had bent pins but only with a card reader
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Jake. I might consider ditching the card you used in the card reader when the pin was bent as you will never know if the inside of the card has been damaged or whether there was a manufacturing fault when the card was made. The pins should not bend if you inserted correctly. I might even suggest ditching the reader because something is wrong with it and the pin will never be the same. I was lucky but if it happened again it will cost me I am sure.

No I haven't got cash to spare but having had one fright I don't want another. Regards
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good news russell pleased you got the right outcome.
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If you want fast download speeds, the answer is to buy yourself a USB 3.0 card reader (If you haven't got a USB 3.0 port, a card for your PC is only about £15). They are over 10 times the speed of USB 2.0 but you do need to use quality cards that can transfer at fast speed or you'll gain very little.

On my new PC I have a USB 3 and so bought a USB 3 card reader and it is mind-boggingly fast compared to my previous USB 2. You might have to search on the internet to get one as they are not common yet but they will be :o)

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If you want fast download speeds, the answer is to buy yourself a USB 3.0 card reader (If you haven't got a USB 3.0 port, a card for your PC is only about £15). They are over 10 times the speed of USB 2.0 but you do need to use quality cards that can transfer at fast speed or you'll gain very little.

On my new PC I have a USB 3 and so bought a USB 3 card reader and it is mind-boggingly fast compared to my previous USB 2. You might have to search on the internet to get one as they are not common yet but they will be :o)

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I've seen speeds of up to x2 with the fastest 600x CF cards using USB3 and only slightly better than that with external hard disks. I'm sure the speed increases will come but we need faster cards and faster buses (where the main bottleneck comes) but there'll always be a significant overhead reducing the theoretical speed due to file system and communications protocols
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