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Old 05-03-2008, 15:28   #1 (permalink)
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Quick question about displaying copyright:

Why display the year What does it signify? Is it the year the photo was taken? Or the year it was first displayed? Or what And why display the year in any event
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Old 05-03-2008, 15:38   #2 (permalink)
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i guess it lets people know when it was taken......... cant think why else

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Personally I use the year the image was first published.
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Re: Copyright - Displaying a Date (Year)

Not being any kind of expert on copyright issues, but I thought that as copyright has a 'life' of, is it 50 years? - the clock starts ticking when the picture is taken. Therefore putting the year into the copyright notice is effectively setting the copyright period.

So if you took a picture in 2000 and did some editing in 2005, if you wanted to add a copyright stamp it would have to reflect the time of origin.

There again, I might be totally wrong. No doubt someone who knows what they are talking about will be along soon, then we will all know
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Quick question about displaying copyright:

Why display the year What does it signify? Is it the year the photo was taken? Or the year it was first displayed? Or what And why display the year in any event
There is a good explanation here P-03: Using Copyright Notices - information fact sheet
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I thought that as copyright has a 'life' of, is it 50 years? - the clock starts ticking when the picture is taken. Therefore putting the year into the copyright notice is effectively setting the copyright period.
In the case of Photos, Copyright arises on the date of creation and persists for 70 years from the end of the calendar year in which the last remaining author of the work dies (for the purpose of the Design copyrights and patents act the photographer is an author).
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Re: Copyright - Displaying a Date (Year)

Thanks for the clarification Pete

From that, it look like there is no necessity to include the date in the copyright, other than giving the work a time stamp that everyone can see.
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Cheers Pete, found the answer in that article

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Thanks for the clarification Pete

From that, it look like there is no necessity to include the date in the copyright, other than giving the work a time stamp that everyone can see.
Could be useful tho' Graham, read the article

Basically the date can help to protect copyright if a dispute arises + you need to verify when you created your photo in order to prove you did it first.
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Could be useful tho' Graham, read the article

Basically the date can help to protect copyright if a dispute arises + you need to verify when you created your photo in order to prove you did it first.
Yes - but you can put any date you want on a watermark - the EXIF will date and time the exact moment - although I accept you can also edit EXIF

Having said that, I think I'll keep the date in.
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Yes - but you can put any date you want on a watermark - the EXIF will date and time the exact moment - although I accept you can also edit EXIF
Assuming that only the author can edit a watermark and/or exif, then that's what will protect you. If someone else obtains a copy of your image + claims ownership, you could dispute this + your claim would be supported by the date which is contained within the copy which is in the other person's possession.

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Having said that, I think I'll keep the date in.
Good idea, you might not think it necessary now, but it could come in handy should a dispute arise re: ownship sometime in the future. A bit like insurance I guess, you never know when you'll need to claim on it, but you can't claim unless you already took out a policy
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As one who puts the date on my image I will clarify my reasons.

I put Hoffy2008 on my images to dipict the year the image was taken.
The main copyright is carried in the Exif data and is applied to the Raw files when importing into lightroom.

The way I see it is that if someone desputed one of my pictures and claimed it was theres, all my pictures are taken in raw files and has the manipulated file locked with it, these are locked away and someone would have to go to a lot of trouble to obtain them.

So with digital images now, if you turn up in court for the dispute, the simple questions is who holds the original, ie Raw file.

I have had a few images poached before and they have be found on other photographers sites. Luckly they have been dealt with outside court.
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Thanks Hoffy, very useful info, especially since you have had personal experience regarding copyright violation.
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I put the year just to show when I published it, but Like all of should be doing I keep an original in a CD no matter what.
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So now what about watermarking, is there much point in watermarking images displayed on the web I mean they are low-res files + no-one could do much with them, except maybe display your photo's on their own web site, they couldn't make a decent print or anything. So those 'togs who watermark their every image, do you do this to safeguard it, or to simply to identify it as your work
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So now what about watermarking, is there much point in watermarking images displayed on the web I mean they are low-res files + no-one could do much with them, except maybe display your photo's on their own web site, they couldn't make a decent print or anything. So those 'togs who watermark their every image, do you do this to safeguard it, or to simply to identify it as your work
with landscape shots im not too worried because not too many people can use them but I always watermark any rally shots due to them being printed in a magazine after my web address had been cropped out of the photo. Thats just my 2 cents but ill make the same mistake again!
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