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Old 16-05-2008, 10:26   #1 (permalink)
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1.download these files to your computer
2.format your CF card in the camera
3.go to: SHOOTING MENU , Manage Picture Control, Load/Save, Copy to Card, OK
This step creates the correct folders for the other files. You are just copying a current picture control to the card.

4.Turn camera off, Take card out of camera and put into computer card reader
5.navigate to Nikon, CUSTOMPC
6.copy the the files in step 1 to the card (copy/paste - overwrite=yes)
7.Put the card back into the camera
8.SHOOTING MENU, Manage Picture Control, Load/Save, Copy to camera
9.OK to each file one at a time.
10. Happy Shooting

The 3 files (Astia, Velvia, Optima) can be found:

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just click the files one at a time and save to your computer.
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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

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There are also D2x curves available if you prefer that feel.
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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

Thanks Vinny, I already had those, I posted these cos they're not official Nikon ones, ergo not publicised (at all), I figured that most people would have got the D2X ones, but maybe not
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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

Probably being a bit dumb ere, sorry, but what are these files for and what do they do Cheers
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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

Not being an idiot, it's not clear unless you know about them

When (if) you're shooting in JPEG on the D300, you can have the 'Picture Controls' that make your pictures come out differently, you probably already know that. The defaults are 'Standard, Vivid, Neutral,' and another I think. You can edit these to your liking and save them, which is a good idea to get the best out of them.

BUT! Many people also wanted to get something that replicates Velvia film or the others mentioned, and you can create these custom 'curves' (not actually curves, misleading name), in Capture NX, and save them. This is what these are, people's ready made 'curves' or 'Picture controls' that replicate the best films from 'back in the day'

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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

Oo..cool! Thanks JM.

I never set them in the camera usually but I do apply them to my raws in Capture NX. I have some that I got through a course but I don't know if I'm allowed to distribute them. The portrait one I got was great.

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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

Thanks Jack I was aware of the Standard/Vivid/Neutral settings but I was unaware you could program the camera to take different settings........well Iv'e learned something new today thanks again
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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

Hi Jack, or anybody that can help, I followed the steps as stated but when i get to shooting menu, manage picture control, load/save, The Copy to card is not highlighted so I cannot procede , is there something I am missing?? Cheers
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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

Yes, you've not done instruction number 3 on the above list. You have to go to the menu and make out you are going to save one of your camera's presets to the card. If you don't it won't create the right folders on the CF card.

Once you've done that you can take the card from the camera and copy the NCP files to the NIKON->CUSTOMPC folder. I think you can possibly create those folders on the card while it's in the card reader plugged into your PC/Mac. However I've never tried it that way and do what point 3 recommends (have the camera create those folders).

Once you've copied the NCP files to that folder on the CF then you insert the card back into your camera and go Manage Picture Control -> Load/save -> Copy to camera, you'll be presented with the new Picture Control Settings.
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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

Taa very much got it sorted now.
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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

Glad it's working Raymo.
LRJ, I used to shoot exclusively in RAW, but when I was working in a photo shop in France, one of the photographers there said, "Why do you shoot RAW?", and I couldn't really give an answer...I decided it was best to try and get it right in cam, even if I can't, and I can tell you that it has cut down my PP and disk space usage by a ton!
The D300 JPEGs are so good that I think it's worth giving them a try, they even contain good detail for exposure changes.
Also, it'd be nice if you could share your portrait setting, cos that's the only one I haven't managed to produce yet, got one for every other occasion, mono, low light, nature etc, but not portrait. If you could find out whether you can distribute them I'd be grateful
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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

I have read this and Jack's other thread re JPEGs and an interesting (not really but thought I'd be nice) point has emerged in Jack's last post. A couple of times Jack has mentioned one of his reasons for shooting in JPEG is the desire to 'get it right in cam' (I assume he means camera here ), which seems to imply that he (and others) shoot (or used to shoot) RAW so they don't have to have the necessary discipline/knowledge to 'get it right in cam'. Hmmm!

Get the best of both worlds: shoot RAW with the same care you are applying to JPEG and be amazed!

Jack, next time someone asks you why you use (used) RAW the correct answer should be "because I want the highest possible quality from my camera since I have put loads of time and effort into becoming a great photographer and I don't want someone else's idea (the software writer) of what I need messing up my carefully crafted and powerfully creative images i.e. camera software conversion to JPEG".

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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

Hmmm. I can see what you're saying Les, and I get your point, but what I'm saying, is that if you put enough time and effort into the 'picture styles' or whatever they're called for JPEG, the quality is so high that you really don't get much difference from RAW. I mean, you gain the ability to correct exposure, and that's what I'm talking about getting it right in CamERA
Anyway, my testing of the JPEG system hasn't finished yet. It will be completed with a grand day out in the field. Then I will make my decision. I might even make comparison shots at the same time, ie shoot RAW + JPEG and look at the two procesesed files etc.

You lot. Honestly.
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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

I shoot in raw, I'll always shoot in raw. It can be a bit tedious at times when doing post-shot processing but it makes me really evaluate which images I want to keep and process. In addition I can take a single shot and create B&W, colour, Sepia, 2 stop over and under exposures for HDR variants all non-destructively.

Shooting both may be the best for some people as then you have the quick fix jpegs which may do the majority of the time with the flexibility to process raw for those occasions where you need to.

Hey Jack - I made a mistake btw. They weren't picture controls, they were Capture NX picture control presets for different image types (I think once loaded you can then save that out as a picture control). They work great though (I use them within Capture NX). I've asked if I can forward them to you and am just awaiting a response.
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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

Hi,

I'm usually use raw format, and I was wondering how can I load these files to the Capture NX.
Is there anyway to use this profiles in capture NX ?

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The link to download these is no longer active. Does anyone know where I can download them.
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Hey JMitchell....I love to see any others you have. Portriats one would be great. I am not sure how much I will end up using them (maybe alot maybe a little) but it is very interesting to see what it can do and in the end this hobby is about creativity and curiousity

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This work on the D70 Jack?
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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

There you go, I'm sure this can be done in the D300 as well:

Some D700 Neutral Settings (Good skin tones) (revised August 2008)
1. Set your LCD brightness to -2 ,( find it in Setup Menu. )
0 is too bright and not close to what we actually see.
2. Set your white balance to A. (automatic) . OR
With the SB-800 using white balance of "flash" is very DEAD ON.
3. In Shooting Menu go to set picture control and make these
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Go to NEUTRAL

1. Sharpening to 5
2. Contrast to +1
3. Brightness to 0
4. Saturation to 0
5. Hue to -1 ( 1 click to the left of 0)

Don't forget to click OK after you make the adjustments and before you
exit the menu.

4. Page 294 in manual. Set b6 , matrix metering to – 1/6 . This has really helped A LOT with not blowing whites and with almost perfect JPEGs. Fine tuning the optimal exposure has helped incredibly to get great flash shots.
5. Look on page 172 of the English manual for instructions how to load them in your camera.

And you can find the files for portrait setting and landscape on nikon website. I've got the files. So if you drop me a pm with your email, then I can forward them on to you. Mind you I haven't tried it myself as yet, as I didn't knew how to install them. But now I know from the first post of this thread. Thanks Jack

Or maybe someone can exchange files with me, cause I would be interested in those other 3.
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This work on the D70 Jack?
Sorry simpbow, didn't see this. Unfortunately not I don't think.


Cheers Dutchie for the update
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Re: D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima custom curves

I think the files are already on the D300 if you updated your software on the camera. I've already got them on there and didn't do anything for it. But Jack, I can't get it on there. It doesn't recognise the file

And the files I've got here are for the D300 and the D700.
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you did put the individual files rather than the folder onto the camera card didn't you? It wont work if you just copy the folder...
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I did yes. But you know by point 3 of your explanation. I come as far as copy to card, and then it gives me the 3 choices of Velvia, Astia and Agfa. Don't understand now. I can't use an unused nr They are all greyed out.
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Sorry simpbow, didn't see this. Unfortunately not I don't think.


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Cheers Jack.
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Im using Nikon D300. I try to click your icon link but it doesn't work. Please email me the file D300 Fuji Velvia / Astia / Agfa Optima.

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I try to click your link but it doesn't work. Please help me or email to me that file to: myram818@yahoo.com. Thank you.
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For those who used Canon Cameras, they also offer a selection of 5 "Styles" which are applied to JPEG files in-camera or will default to the style set in Canon's DPP software (which of course you can change). If using Lightroom, PS or Elements the equivalent style (or profile) can be found in the Camera Calibration section. It is as well to be aware of this anyway just to ensure that the default setting is as you want.

For both Nikon and Canon (and others), an alternative to these "Styles" and "film profiles" is to use a bespoke calibration profile. I have created a calibration profile for my camera using the XRITE Color Checker Passport couple with Adobe Labs DNG Profile Editor. This results in more accurate colour conversion. It is easy enough to add a Style later in the editing, if required, but have accurate colour by default.
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