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Old 18-09-2015, 17:41   #1 (permalink)
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Detail in sky please?

Hi,

I took this image last week end and I'd really like to get the detail back in the sky.

I do recall the clouds right on the horizon had a beautiful silver lining around them....even a (Nikon) D300s doesn't quite get it right at times!!

I have (only) Lightroom 3.1 at my disposal (also PSE 10 on my lap top).

The image is taken in raw.

I've been experimenting with the graduation tool.


Thanks very much for any thoughts or ideas.






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Re: Detail in sky please?

I haven't used PSE for awhile, but if you have an adjustment layer called select color usually at the bottom the list, you have black, mid-tones and white. Make a copy of your picture in layers and select the select color button, it should open set to red. Way down at the bottom use the white or mid-tones black setting play around with the cyan, megenta and yellow but the black is key here. It has worked wonders for me. Lowering exsposure and masking it in. You might have to use the eraser to remove the trees.
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Try reducing the highlight slider on the RAW file in Lightroom. Can't remember if it was called highlights in LR3 though - is it recovery?
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Another way, make a duplicate layer, then in levels or curves darken this layer to get the sky you want then click on layer mask and paint black over the trees and foreground to expose the background layer underneath if you make a mistake paint white over the mistake and it will restore back to the original.
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Another way, make a duplicate layer, then in levels or curves darken this layer to get the sky you want then click on layer mask and paint black over the trees and foreground to expose the background layer underneath if you make a mistake paint white over the mistake and it will restore back to the original.
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Is this what the "graduation filter" does?
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Try reducing the highlight slider on the RAW file in Lightroom. Can't remember if it was called highlights in LR3 though - is it recovery?


Yes, it is, thanks.
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I haven't used PSE for awhile, but if you have an adjustment layer called select color usually at the bottom the list, you have black, mid-tones and white. Make a copy of your picture in layers and select the select color button, it should open set to red. Way down at the bottom use the white or mid-tones black setting play around with the cyan, megenta and yellow but the black is key here. It has worked wonders for me. Lowering exsposure and masking it in. You might have to use the eraser to remove the trees.


mmm I need to look into "layers".

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David, Layers are a completely separate thing from the graduation tool which is a tool on it's own right. Layers is putting one image on top of another then erasing part of the top image to see the image below. Do you remember the old over head projectors and teachers giving boring lectures and setting clear acetate sheets on top of other to change what was on the screen, well layers are something of the same idea, or has this confused you more. Google Adobe layers on u-tube or adobe site for tutorials.
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David, Layers are a completely separate thing from the graduation tool which is a tool on it's own right.

Fine, ok.

(I just wondered if Adobe were using that technology in their tool)



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Layers is putting one image on top of another then erasing part of the top image to see the image below. Do you remember the old over head projectors and teachers giving boring lectures and setting clear acetate sheets on top of other to change what was on the screen, well layers are something of the same idea, or has this confused you more.

No, good analogy.



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I need to look it up.

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