A digital picture of britain?

Gandhi · 12-08-2005, 18:02

HAs anybody been watchin this series?

I've just noticed a post on another forum and realised I forgot to mention it yesterday!

It's on thurs nights at about 23:20, been quite interesting so far but I wasn't too impressed with the calibre of last nights work, flat lighting and unoriginal compostion mostly. AND these people are gettin paid to do it! There's only so much you can blame on the fact that aren't used to the camera!

grrrrrrrrr so called pros!

Steep · 12-08-2005, 18:34

I've found that a few times in the series, very poor quality work from the 'professionals'

Matty · 12-08-2005, 19:48

the online 'competition' has its last days voting this weekend, i went through the entire gallery(all 100 pages) that i entered my picstures too and didnt see them, so the random rotation is rubbish, who is going to plough through 100 pages of photos whilst rating them???i did 3 pages and got fed up, then looked at another 97 before using the search to find my 2

Gandhi · 12-08-2005, 22:13

or you could just do what my dad did, just e-mailed everyone he knew and all our family and told them if they didn't vote his pictures at 10 then they would be blackballed and not get any christmas action ha ha!!

There's life in the old dog yet!

Adrian · 12-08-2005, 22:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steep

I've found that a few times in the series, very poor quality work from the 'professionals'

Professional = paid.

Amateur = for the love of it.

Go figure, as our colonial cousins say

Matty · 12-08-2005, 23:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by gandhi

or you could just do what my dad did, just e-mailed everyone he knew and all our family and told them if they didn't vote his pictures at 10 then they would be blackballed and not get any christmas action ha ha!!

There's life in the old dog yet!

cunning!:icon_cool

fingerz · 23-08-2005, 02:04

I've missed most of the episodes but I'd like to get hold of them. Preferably digitally (MPEG files or on DVD). I'm trying to get a login for UKNova but they've diabled signups at the mo. Has anyone recorded them?

23-08-2005, 07:19

I too missed alot of these, as they started at a time when my interest in photography had waned slightly, just before it pepped up and I bought my first DSLR

So therefore I too am looking to watch all these. I did see the first one and enjoyed it somewhat.

I have a login for UKNova, and they're not on there anymore. Must have dropped off the end of the server.

fingerz · 23-08-2005, 15:19

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Originally Posted by Marcel

I have a login for UKNova, and they're not on there anymore. Must have dropped off the end of the server.

Aww nuts. Don't wanna have to buy the DVD because it'd be one of those things I watch once and never again.

Gandhi · 23-08-2005, 16:00

TBH you haven't missed a great deal. It's been a bit of a let down. The photographers work hasn't been great and they've kept the exact same format every show. I personaly only found it interesting insofar as it was good glimpse into other peoples working methods.

fingerz · 23-08-2005, 16:10

Well... In the episode I saw (last week) I thought the guys worked pretty well within the limits of the kit they had.

It had the opposite effect on me actually. The programme, together with this site, reminded me that photography should be about capturing interesting moments. And we can get too bogged down in the technical stuff. Sharpness and image noise and all that is peripheral to taking a photo of something interesting.

Admittedly with landscapes you've got all the time in the world to compose the shot and get it spot-on but that's not what interests me most.

Gandhi · 23-08-2005, 18:12

I'm glad that you found both inspirational and enjoyable. I also agree that it is easy to get bogged down with all the technical stuff and willy waving that goes on.

Where I do Disagree, however, is that photography has to be about capturing 'interesting moments' I realise that this phrase itself is open to varied interpretations, but surely it's the quality of the photograph and the phographers art in itself that can make a moment that somebody would normally consider boring into something they find pleasing to the eye and interesting.

As far as I'm concerned the art is in the interpretation of whats going on, not the actual event itself.

An interesting moment will not necessarily make a good photo, it's easy to cock it up, and landscape photography is very much time-limited, especially when it's early morning or late evening and the light is changing every second as the sun rises or sinks.

But having said that, it's all subjective anyway and I've probably got my head too far up my own @rse to see what a good photo is

fingerz · 23-08-2005, 18:49

I'm sure good photography is a combination of many things really. Ignore me. I'm just narky cos I really like street photos but I can't seem to do them very well.

CT · 23-08-2005, 18:56

Ah... you're interested in capturing 'the moment' then? Tis actually a noble aim - check out the work of Cartier-Bresson (you need the hyphen), arguably the greatest candid/street photographer (Do a Google image search) See what you think. Unless you already know of him that is.

fingerz · 23-08-2005, 18:59

I've heard him mentioned and seen the shot of the chap jumping the puddle. Had been meaning to have a look for more of his work but there's no time like the present. Cheers.

CT · 23-08-2005, 19:00

Prepare to be somewhat humbled though!

Gandhi · 23-08-2005, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by fingerz

I'm sure good photography is a combination of many things really. Ignore me. I'm just narky cos I really like street photos but I can't seem to do them very well.

No worries dude, everybody's opinion is valid.

Don't be too hard on yourself. Nobody is born great.

fingerz · 23-08-2005, 19:07

Had a look through this gallery: http://www.afterimagegallery.com/bresson.htm

It's good. But I was more inspired by the stuff on http://www.in-public.com than I am by Cartier-Bresson (such as I've seen). Obviously C-B must be a better photographer because he's more famous but as has been mentioned, it's all subjective.

I need a mate with a first-floor flat overlooking a really delapidated part of London so I can hang about at his gaff taking candids with a long lens.

12-08-2005, 18:02	#1 (permalink)
Gandhi Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: bath, somerserset Posts: 966	A digital picture of britain? HAs anybody been watchin this series? I've just noticed a post on another forum and realised I forgot to mention it yesterday! It's on thurs nights at about 23:20, been quite interesting so far but I wasn't too impressed with the calibre of last nights work, flat lighting and unoriginal compostion mostly. AND these people are gettin paid to do it! There's only so much you can blame on the fact that aren't used to the camera! grrrrrrrrr so called pros!

12-08-2005, 18:34	#2 (permalink)
Steep Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Inverness Posts: 964	I've found that a few times in the series, very poor quality work from the 'professionals'

12-08-2005, 19:48	#3 (permalink)
Matty Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: kings hill Posts: 5,269	the online 'competition' has its last days voting this weekend, i went through the entire gallery(all 100 pages) that i entered my picstures too and didnt see them, so the random rotation is rubbish, who is going to plough through 100 pages of photos whilst rating them???i did 3 pages and got fed up, then looked at another 97 before using the search to find my 2

12-08-2005, 22:13	#4 (permalink)
Gandhi Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: bath, somerserset Posts: 966	or you could just do what my dad did, just e-mailed everyone he knew and all our family and told them if they didn't vote his pictures at 10 then they would be blackballed and not get any christmas action ha ha!! There's life in the old dog yet!

23-08-2005, 02:04	#7 (permalink)
fingerz Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 790	I've missed most of the episodes but I'd like to get hold of them. Preferably digitally (MPEG files or on DVD). I'm trying to get a login for UKNova but they've diabled signups at the mo. Has anyone recorded them?

23-08-2005, 07:19	#8 (permalink)
Marcel Posts: n/a	I too missed alot of these, as they started at a time when my interest in photography had waned slightly, just before it pepped up and I bought my first DSLR So therefore I too am looking to watch all these. I did see the first one and enjoyed it somewhat. I have a login for UKNova, and they're not on there anymore. Must have dropped off the end of the server.

23-08-2005, 16:00	#10 (permalink)
Gandhi Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: bath, somerserset Posts: 966	TBH you haven't missed a great deal. It's been a bit of a let down. The photographers work hasn't been great and they've kept the exact same format every show. I personaly only found it interesting insofar as it was good glimpse into other peoples working methods.

23-08-2005, 16:10	#11 (permalink)
fingerz Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 790	Well... In the episode I saw (last week) I thought the guys worked pretty well within the limits of the kit they had. It had the opposite effect on me actually. The programme, together with this site, reminded me that photography should be about capturing interesting moments. And we can get too bogged down in the technical stuff. Sharpness and image noise and all that is peripheral to taking a photo of something interesting. Admittedly with landscapes you've got all the time in the world to compose the shot and get it spot-on but that's not what interests me most.

23-08-2005, 18:12	#12 (permalink)
Gandhi Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: bath, somerserset Posts: 966	I'm glad that you found both inspirational and enjoyable. I also agree that it is easy to get bogged down with all the technical stuff and willy waving that goes on. Where I do Disagree, however, is that photography has to be about capturing 'interesting moments' I realise that this phrase itself is open to varied interpretations, but surely it's the quality of the photograph and the phographers art in itself that can make a moment that somebody would normally consider boring into something they find pleasing to the eye and interesting. As far as I'm concerned the art is in the interpretation of whats going on, not the actual event itself. An interesting moment will not necessarily make a good photo, it's easy to cock it up, and landscape photography is very much time-limited, especially when it's early morning or late evening and the light is changing every second as the sun rises or sinks. But having said that, it's all subjective anyway and I've probably got my head too far up my own @rse to see what a good photo is

23-08-2005, 18:49	#13 (permalink)
fingerz Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 790	I'm sure good photography is a combination of many things really. Ignore me. I'm just narky cos I really like street photos but I can't seem to do them very well.

23-08-2005, 18:56	#14 (permalink)
CT Feet under the table Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Mids UK Posts: 3,500	Ah... you're interested in capturing 'the moment' then? Tis actually a noble aim - check out the work of Cartier-Bresson (you need the hyphen), arguably the greatest candid/street photographer (Do a Google image search) See what you think. Unless you already know of him that is.

23-08-2005, 18:59	#15 (permalink)
fingerz Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 790	I've heard him mentioned and seen the shot of the chap jumping the puddle. Had been meaning to have a look for more of his work but there's no time like the present. Cheers.

23-08-2005, 19:00	#16 (permalink)
CT Feet under the table Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Mids UK Posts: 3,500	Prepare to be somewhat humbled though!

23-08-2005, 19:07	#18 (permalink)
fingerz Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 790	Had a look through this gallery: http://www.afterimagegallery.com/bresson.htm It's good. But I was more inspired by the stuff on http://www.in-public.com than I am by Cartier-Bresson (such as I've seen). Obviously C-B must be a better photographer because he's more famous but as has been mentioned, it's all subjective. I need a mate with a first-floor flat overlooking a really delapidated part of London so I can hang about at his gaff taking candids with a long lens.

23-08-2005, 19:13	#19 (permalink)
CT Feet under the table Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Mids UK Posts: 3,500