Even the Pros can't agree on WB

**stepheno** · 08-01-2008, 14:36

....in these photos on the Daily Mail website. Scroll down to see two images, one by Getty and one from Wireimage, showing two distinctly different White Balances. On my monitor Brad's shirt comes up grey and then blue in the second image?

**Angela** · 08-01-2008, 14:49

Same here, the first and third are much warmer.

Les Meehan · 08-01-2008, 15:14

So much for pros worrying about colour management then! It's the old story, once the image leaves your control forget about how some picture monkey/editor is going to (ab)use it.

Whipspeed · 08-01-2008, 15:16

Same here, 1st & third are also more flattering due to the warmth.

Ali · 08-01-2008, 15:20

Yep, grey shirt on 1st/3rd and distinctly blue on the 2nd!

JMitchell · 08-01-2008, 17:00

So....time for wireimage vs. getty thead?

**Markulous** · 08-01-2008, 17:26

It's the DM - what do you expect, accuracy?

gsgary · 08-01-2008, 17:28

I would go with it being a grey shirt

snap2photo · 08-01-2008, 17:41

I think these are a few fairly disposable low res web shots. I think the pictures have a short shelf life. The worst colour one is also a poor photographic comp but does show them "loved up". (todays news) I think if it was going to print they would use one and get the colour balance correct. (or use BW) I think you will find the curves they are interested have nothing to do with the colour balance.

Hacker · 08-01-2008, 20:32

No grey shirts on that link but a very fine looking Angelina Jolie.

**stepheno** · 08-01-2008, 21:35

If she sees your avatar, Colin, you've no chance

j sotelo · 09-01-2008, 00:06

same here 1 and 3 grey,

**Sonsey** · 09-01-2008, 00:29

There was a shirt?

Hooky · 09-01-2008, 20:54

Brad who?

VikingPhotography · 12-01-2008, 01:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMitchell

So....time for wireimage vs. getty thead?

Haha... if Getty didn't own WireImage, I'd say that might have merit

All WireImage and Getty Images photographers (myself included) use the same software to review, cull, edit, caption and transmitt images to the global picture desk inbox. The software is called GIFT and is an acronym of Getty Images Field Tool. It's based on BreezeBrowser and is reasonably painless to use.

Part of the GIFT workflow involves the use of Photoshop and it is the photographer's job to take care of all things related to image quality before they transmit the shots.

The picture desk editors simply process the received files through the relevant library systems and, by and large, do not do any editing of photos once received. That said, they can and will reject transmitted photos if they fall below their quality threshold.

In this case, Getty photographer Frank Micelotta was probably shooting JPG's with either a pre-set or Auto WB that was just off the mark and, rather than correct the issue in PS, he transmitted his images ASAP.

FYI: WireImage had eight photographers covering this event, each assigned slightly different roles... at the end of the day, just over 2000 shots from this one event ended up going live on the WI website

08-01-2008, 14:36	#1 (permalink)
stepheno Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,637	Even the Pros can't agree on WB ....in these photos on the Daily Mail website. Scroll down to see two images, one by Getty and one from Wireimage, showing two distinctly different White Balances. On my monitor Brad's shirt comes up grey and then blue in the second image?

08-01-2008, 14:49	#2 (permalink)
Angela Pixalo Crew Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Wimbledon Posts: 5,851	Re: Even the Pros can't agree on WB Same here, the first and third are much warmer.

08-01-2008, 15:14	#3 (permalink)
Les Meehan Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: I conduct workshops in Andalucia, Spain Posts: 778	Re: Even the Pros can't agree on WB So much for pros worrying about colour management then! It's the old story, once the image leaves your control forget about how some picture monkey/editor is going to (ab)use it.

08-01-2008, 15:16	#4 (permalink)
Whipspeed Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Northamptonshire Posts: 1,306	Re: Even the Pros can't agree on WB Same here, 1st & third are also more flattering due to the warmth.

08-01-2008, 15:20	#5 (permalink)
Ali Forum Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mid Sussex Posts: 985	Re: Even the Pros can't agree on WB Yep, grey shirt on 1st/3rd and distinctly blue on the 2nd!

08-01-2008, 17:00	#6 (permalink)
JMitchell Feet under the table Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: London, England Posts: 3,520	Re: Even the Pros can't agree on WB So....time for wireimage vs. getty thead?

08-01-2008, 17:26	#7 (permalink)
Markulous Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Peak District Posts: 9,691	Re: Even the Pros can't agree on WB It's the DM - what do you expect, accuracy?

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gsgary Forum Regular Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chesterfield UK Posts: 768	Re: Even the Pros can't agree on WB I would go with it being a grey shirt

08-01-2008, 17:41	#9 (permalink)
snap2photo Getting Comfy Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cheltenham, UK Posts: 154	Re: Even the Pros can't agree on WB I think these are a few fairly disposable low res web shots. I think the pictures have a short shelf life. The worst colour one is also a poor photographic comp but does show them "loved up". (todays news) I think if it was going to print they would use one and get the colour balance correct. (or use BW) I think you will find the curves they are interested have nothing to do with the colour balance.

08-01-2008, 20:32	#10 (permalink)
Hacker Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 623	Re: Even the Pros can't agree on WB No grey shirts on that link but a very fine looking Angelina Jolie.

08-01-2008, 21:35	#11 (permalink)
stepheno Pixalo Crew Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 6,637	Re: Even the Pros can't agree on WB If she sees your avatar, Colin, you've no chance

09-01-2008, 00:06	#12 (permalink)
j sotelo Feet under the table Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego, Ca. Where the Surf meets the Turf Posts: 1,719	Re: Even the Pros can't agree on WB same here 1 and 3 grey,

09-01-2008, 00:29	#13 (permalink)
Sonsey Pixalo Crew Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: N. Ireland Posts: 7,242	Re: Even the Pros can't agree on WB There was a shirt?

09-01-2008, 20:54	#14 (permalink)
Hooky Getting Comfy Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Mid Cornwall Posts: 129	Re: Even the Pros can't agree on WB Brad who?